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What Kind of Libertarian Are You?

So asks this Reason post, discussing five types of libertarian identified by Tyler Cowen. The five types are:

  1. Cato-influenced;
  2. Rothbardian anarchism;
  3. Mises Institute nationalism;
  4. Jeff Friedman and Critical Review; and
  5. Hayek libertarianism.

“Cato-influenced” is defined as “orthodox” libertarianism, “defined by the troika of free markets, non-interventionism, and civil liberties.  It is based on individual rights but does not insist on anarchism.  A ruling principle is that libertarians should not endorse state interventions.” Of course, Mises Instituters tend to adhere to these principles (and to be Rothbardians, often anarchists; and not “nationalists”). As Wirkman Virkkala notes:

Cowen apparently desired to carry water in the culture war between George Mason economists and the scholars and enthusiasts associated with the Mises Institute. His characterization of a “Mises Institute Nationalism” borders on bizarre, though I see why he would make the attempt. The fact that so many of these folks are themselves anarchists means that whatever “nationalism” they promote must be a different sort. I took from this short description that Cowen doesn’t like Hans-Herman Hoppe. Yeah, thanks for sharing. This description of a strand of libertarianism is less coherent than the previous.

The list is odd, indeed. Mises Institute people are not nationalists and generally are Rothbardians, so really 3 should collapse into 2. Hayek was not really a libertarian. 1 And it’s not clear that Jeffrey Friedman is either; he’s some kind of “postlibertarian.” 2

As for Cato: Look, I’m glad Cato is generally on our side. But the implication that Cato is “orthodox” libertarian, compared to the Mises Institute’s “nationalism” is guffaw-inducing. Of course, no group’s members have perfectly uniform views, but consider the following cases that seem to stray from the troika of basic libertarian principles of free markets, non-interventionism, and civil liberties, where various Catoites:

It’s almost a compliment to be called a nationalist by someone who holds up this as the libertarian ideal.

Update: And the flaws of Objectivists:

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Dunno, maybe. He seems a nice guy in person but under the surface all these Randroids are they same. They want to prance around and preach condescendingly to us about things we already know and act like Rand discovered common sense–and the facts is they are mini-statists and support IP and have a very confused understanding of property rights. They use stupid, hoary metaphors and idiosyncratic terms and definitions that sound cultish; they run around talking about “Miss Rand” and “achieving value,” whatever the hell that means. They support taxation stephankinsella.com/2016/05/david- stephankinsella.com/2025/07/the-po, they support one-world government stephankinsella.com/2009/09/object stephankinsella.com/2009/09/rand-o, they support legislation if it is the only way to get IP c4sif.org/2022/08/letter, they support fascist IP and IP terrorism c4sif.org/2022/04/on-the, they support war and nuking Arabs and others stephankinsella.com/2007/12/centra ari.aynrand.org/issues/foreign , they think retarded babies should be aborted stephankinsella.com/2009/07/object stephankinsella.com/2009/12/randia, they think it was fine to murder and steal from Indians stephankinsella.com/2024/12/rand-o, they worship the centralized-statist Constitution, they hate charity, children, fun, humor stephankinsella.com/2009/07/peikof. They are pathetic, cartoonish children stephankinsella.com/2010/01/object. They should be grateful we principled anti-state libertarians even deign to speak with them despite all this, but they are too puffed up and weird to have humility. I refuse to pretend they are not what they are and they can’t stand that. The saving grace of the retarded Galambosians was they took their IP views so seriously that almost none of their stupid views are available online.

c4sif.org/tag/galambos/ stephankinsella.com/tag/galambos/ Too bad the Randians don’t take their IP views as seriously and let their embarrassing crap slowly fade away like rotting carcasses turning into dirt or dinosaurs and peat moss turning into oil.

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Lew’s reply was:

re: What Kind of Libertarian Are You?

Posted by Lew Rockwell on July 9, 2009 03:00 PM

Stephan, these detailed taxonomies are just sand in the eyes. There are only two kinds of libertarian, much as some would like to obscure it: Rothbardian and non-Rothbardian. But even that can be a distraction in our everyday work. As Murray noted — minarchist or anarchist, constitutionalist or monarchist — there is really only one consideration: Do you hate the state?

[LRC]

Update: On Cato Unbound, an article arguing for military conscription.

And now we have them arguing for a minimum basic income.

  1. Walter Block,  Hayek’s Road to Serfdom . []
  2. See Postlibertarianism is not libertarianism: Rejoinder to Nove; After libertarianism: Rejoinder to Narveson, McCloskey, Flew, and Machan; and What’s Wrong With Libertarianism. []
  3. Drug Reimportation []
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