KOL330 | Lift Talks #2 With Kinsella & Sammeroff

all right here’s lift talk number two starting off with a few photos this is anthony and peggy

anthony and peggy and david at the bar across the street this is us in the hot tub

after one of our days skiing anthony like a greek god in the hot tub

and don’t look at his junk me in the hot tub um and here we go

all right it’s wednesday our last ski day that’s right someone woke up at noon jesus i wonder who that could have been

yeah yeah anyway so we’re going skiing late for some reason why don’t you tell them all what

happened no let’s just let them wonder um so what the funny thing is right this

guy’s like uh he’s like i don’t know what happened this morning and i’m like i know and his friends are like what what what

and it’s like you were a lazy [ __ ] so we had we had a nice dinner party

last night which was incredible yeah we had a chef come in can you put the pictures over the video yeah i can do that so um you know what

we should do let’s oh so i put it on twitter i said you know we had a dinner party catered

to telluride for eight people three people were cooking and they asked us if they wanted

if we wanted them to wear masks and we said none of us are massacres so we don’t give a [ __ ] and so when the guy showed up they were

happy you could tell not to have to wear a mask plus they said all three of them got in i think in our crowd i think five of us

have gotten the uh the vaccine already anyway um everyone who gets the vaccine is telling

me they’ve had a horrible act reaction to the vaccine yeah i do i’m just saying that i’m anti-vaxx i’m just

saying that yeah i had it i admitted i admit it for 12 hours i’m just not saying that yeah i know i

know and i’m not i’m not saying the opposite but uh but the guy said i said how many of

your clients want you to wear the mask he says one percent like barely you are the one person yeah

but the point is no one no one believes it’s [ __ ] everyone’s like don’t worry about us we don’t care well that’s

what if you go out and you speak to people on the street from colorado they seem like they’re really into it

do you know what i want well climate climate change deniers and what else

they call you they call you a denier if you don’t agree with them i want to be like cover data denier

because when you look at the data it shows that lockdowns aren’t effective and mass mandates aren’t effective

so anyone who disagrees with us we just call them data deniers yeah that seems to be quite successful

liberty deniers but they don’t care about they also like to say you’re anti-science if you disagree with them

the ironic thing about being called anti-science says it’s always when you’re asking for more

science that you get called out can’t have enough science yeah i’m always like can you give me

some more science please yeah someone calls me anti-science i’d like i’d like some more objective data

please to prove that your policy is effective oh you’re anti-science

but i wasn’t done talking about this morning because it was hilarious oh so this morning uh

what was here well i worked i got up at eight and i worked and then still at 12

cancels downstairs in a ski jacket and helmet being like yeah come

on samurai come on let’s go and i’m like i can’t believe that i’m the one being blamed for us being when i’ve been

on eight weeks i’ve been up for four hours why didn’t you go with david and peggy i considered

that but then i thought well the thing is i thought that you like yesterday you took

forever to get ready to go after you got it so i thought it would be like yesterday

but actually you were so embarrassed of being late up late that you were like snappy no i i wanted to get something you know

my last night some toast in the toaster not realizing that you were you were like you just you just

meander around like a like kind of a random little i didn’t

so you were saying you’re talking with our host david and peggy and uh you’re saying they were ranting about the liberal takeover america yeah i made

the point that the liberal takeover of america i don’t even like it that you guys call them

liberals i i like but i don’t even like when they get called progressives either yeah but because progress quickly

are things about the end let me make the point the point is there’s something about the natural

affinity or connection between conservatives and libertarians because when you talk to someone like that they don’t quite speak our language but

we can talk but if you talk to a democrat like there’s no common ground almost i understand that but i didn’t think

that was the case when i first became a libertarian around 2008

maybe somewhat uh because i felt like i was more aligned with the labour

rules because they were actually you know against the war and against the surveillance state the

patriot act and all that stuff but now the left have got so bad that i find myself finding way more common

cause with people that i wouldn’t have even imagined myself being aligned with

15 years ago it’s quite crazy [ __ ] hey so um all right well we have to get up

we’re going to get off at the good left talk all right good luck talk good in lifting this is my poodle bella getting spayed

while i was uh skiing in telluride okay we’re discussing potential topics for this segment of lift talks dude

number two i also you’re fletcher how about your body parts i mean your body parts are all over the place you got your winger

hanging out everywhere you’re farting all the time i have had been suffering from

all my oh my my my my sweet chubby friends from las vegas would say you’re farting because you’re on a vegan

diet that’s a problem and you’re not going to be able to get some chick pregnant you’re going to grab roman boobs the funny thing is uh

i only got the flatulence when i started observing the american diet and eating all this crap do you know

what else i put on 11 pounds since coming to houston texas

now i don’t want to lose all 11 because i actually think it was a little bit lower than i wanted to be

but i do want to lose six of them so i don’t think it’s the vegan stuff i think it’s all the bread

and the [ __ ] cheese and the uh all the smelly stinky so let’s recount our trip

so far first yeah you got to houston uh i picked you up and took i said let’s go to auburn so you went to

auburn before that we went out just chilling we you had a we had a year as a

non-alcoholic beverage i had one or two rums what was that i picked you up in

houston yeah the night before we went to albert we just chose where we go

yeah and we got the worst service probably spoke for six or seven hours yeah you asked that black girl you tried

to get the phone number the hot black chick because you haven’t had you have not had a black woman yet that’s true yeah i was trying to get

your your your ethnic female completist i i’m still hoping to get a black bone

before i leave the thing is you can’t black one black bone black blackboard i mean put a black

check the thing is you’re not allowed to say that because apparently you’re racist

but see if you say i don’t want to [ __ ] black chicks then you’re also racist yeah no matter what you want to do i was

there the other night at the stand-up comedy and i made friends with some african-americans and i got baked in the

back of their truck even though i wasn’t smoking the weed they just hot boxed me and i got really stoned

anyway then the black chick there she was a half black half hispanic she kept on insisting that i had to bone

girls with other races in order to experience the world she sounds like my kind of girl like

she was her and her boyfriend they were pretty cool and some other people she’s like insisted that i had to have

sex with people of other races it’s like funny she’s i should have told her to introduce me to her good

looking friends sorry i got i i i’m never done talking about girls let’s recap our trip

oh i was going to talk about rights theory actually i’m not joking but um wright’s theory okay well let’s

first i want to recap so i pick you up we have a night then you decided to kind of last minute to go

to auburn with me so we go to auburn a few days later yeah lots of cool people and we had fun we

met my boys jeff barr and league lodi and jim yohi and some other guys there and i met some all the musicians celebrities celebrities some celebrities

oh yeah i forgot to mention on the podcast my finest moment i turned to jeff herbiner and i was like hey

this is funny because i know you but you don’t know me and jeff herbert’s like well actually i’ve heard you on the tom

wood show a couple of times i’m like how does this [ __ ] know who i am and also how does he recognize

what i look like your voice is pretty distinctive i know but it’s pretty nice that jeff harper recognized me

i also had a little chat with you yeah we had fun there we had some nice dinners too remember that place we went to out in the 20 my

place 20 miles away wasn’t that cool yeah like one night the thai soup wasn’t too hot

yeah but the but the company was good you don’t go to auburn for thai soup i tell you that you had a friend that was like

you know he’s the [ __ ] poster of the group it’s really funny because i usually post [ __ ] was it lee

lee or was it yeah jeff’s not a [ __ ] poster for sure it was the guy that always says stuff

just to be obnoxious exactly yeah that’s usually my role but since he fulfilled it and you’re in his

country i couldn’t top him so i just let him be the obnoxious [ __ ] oh we met roderick long one night for

dinner that was yeah i invited rodrigo around he said he was first winning on grass at mises institute

that was almost you stefan you almost got kicked out of the lisa no one can no one can npc me

[ __ ] no no one can’t rp and gmail is phoenix communicated apart from

uh joe stromberg uh tucker why is your phone right oh there’s a long story there i wasn’t

involved in it he and i were good friends he went with me he went to korea in 2000 with me and hans and that group i told you about

for the muni conference which is another interesting story and we were friends and and then he got

he kind of he got he left me his own bad terms i think something to do with his wife

hanging around there too much but i had nothing to do with it i was like you know a lawyer in houston i’m not even involved people love

libertarian gossip but i have to say i wish that we could all just get along

well so stromberg like he leaves and a couple years later i sent him a note because i hadn’t heard him in a while

and he sent me this nasty horrible nasty bite of letterback like attacking me for for siding with mises

with his wife something and i had i had no idea what he’s even talking about he like [ __ ] i don’t even know what’s

going on yeah i’m just a lawyer in houston man i’m not over there in auburn setting policies yet anyway i don’t really believe that

roderick long has been excommunicated i think he just thinks he has i’m pretty sure if he sent a nice email

now i think yeah the story he described sounded like he got cancelled for that talk and by the way i got canceled one

time for a cato talk i got invited to a cato talk about three years ago to do an ip debate

and with like it was me and one other guy versus two other guys it was two versus two and i was surprised i got

the fight because of the bad blood between cato and the mises types i just couldn’t believe it and so like

about a month before it happened i’d already bought my plane tickets and everything and i bought business class which they

were only going to pay for coach but i paid the extra right so i bought a business last flight and then they they said oh sorry stuff

and we’ve had a change we have to change rotate the panel out so we won’t be needing you basically they yeah cato canceled you

no i know exactly what happened someone in higher up in cato the left hand wasn’t talking yeah right they said what the [ __ ] you’re having kasella come talk

you gotta disinvite him now and so they did it and then the guy that invited me was apologetic

so i didn’t burn him in public but i did burn everyone else but but he stood he stood in my place but

anyway so i had a bunch of cato guys that just won’t go on top with show because they’re afraid of being

ex-immunity from cato and they have no problem with tom woods but they just don’t do it because kate’s

or mental but oh no factionation i remember what i was gonna say they weren’t gonna pay for anything but

i said okay i’ll come up anyway i’ll pay i’ll go there on my own dime i was gonna pay for my own way so i booked my ticket and then when they

canceled on me i said well dudes i already bought a [ __ ] ticket so they paid me they re they reimbursed

me for the ticket i bought so basically cato would not pay me to go but they paid me not to go

yes literally isn’t that funny it’s amazing the things that you find out in left talks

yeah so sorry i didn’t mean to get um but let’s talk about roger getting uh yeah i like roderick and also i think

he’s quite an original thinker i do think he has some weird views culturally which i don’t necessarily

agree with but that’s not really um grounds for discounting

some of the fantastic work he’s done i don’t think anyone has done that i

know but they should let him miss this because he’s a good speaker do you think i should rejoin his journal i mean his institute the c4ss i quit it

because kevin carson wanted to said he wanted to behead corporate executives and since my wife

is one i didn’t want to really endorse that message you know what i’m saying that’s funny i can’t believe that your

wife is uh heartless greedy he’s bleeding the

blood of children and feast her fiendish appetite for blood she let me go skating with my buddies that’s not too heartless

she’s pretty cool i know she was killing the phone and stefan was like yeah so should i stay out a day longer she was

like you can if you want i don’t need your engineer whatever you want enjoy yourself babe

she’s like most most guys when a wife says that they’re suspicious of like yeah what the hell did that mean

the process of clearing the condoms at the bends from her other physicists

as soon as she hung up she got on the phone she goes hey you can stay another night why is she getting on the phone if he’s

staying maybe he’s at work she’s not gonna she’s not gonna cheat him cheat on me with a

loser you could all bring up gonna cheat on me with the guy with the job yeah that

er that works more than four or five hours a week yeah freaking lazy who’s not poor [ __ ] how do you say poor

per se no one understands huh

what are you petting a [ __ ] cat all right we have to dismount this is a

long [ __ ] lift what’s the end of the so we did auburn alabama oh and then we came back and i actually

forgot i was going skiing like a week later but well you know i guess it did occur to me because i didn’t i i assume there’s no

[ __ ] way you know how to ski a middle-class guy from scotland are you kidding me but so i just said i’m going skiing do

you happen to ski and you’re like hell yeah my dad skis well at first i said i didn’t ask you if your dad skis dude i need to have you

ski i’m not taking a novice again this time i want to [ __ ] ski yeah that’s the thing you said yeah i’m

like you’re right you are a wiry little monkey all right see you guys on the next level

all right that was that was a [ __ ] awesome run what’d you say good welcome back for some less insight baseball and

more just us talking about our lives um but i wanted to say something though uh

so first of all you predict this will be a a popular episode but i i don’t like it could be a disaster but

we’ll see i think i’m worried the audio the audio may suck because you don’t speak up enough i think it will be

popular because if you do libertarian theory every show does libertarian theory

but when you just chill out and chat people like oh i’m really getting to know stuff we could sell right now

do you think it will rehabilitate my [ __ ] image you’re not the thing is you’re not as

much of an [ __ ] in real life as you are online but you’re still a bit of an [ __ ]

hey which is a point i posted some picture on facebook of us doing our [ __ ] baller

[ __ ] and someone asked i’ll take a picture take your marbles your models up

and someone said someone left me a comment a cheeky [ __ ] comment

what the hell can you don’t do one thing oh i’m kind of don’t just take your goggles up like

instead of being a [ __ ] why are you being a [ __ ] i don’t know someone did someone gave you a hard time

on what now yeah he left a comment being like hey anthony how did i get our skiing holiday with stephen

i’m like [ __ ] you know how you watch this video this is the next best thing i i just

left a comment like uh be friends with them

why don’t you ask concealer how do you get a skiing holiday with me is he higher up that’s how you don’t get

a ski trip with consola by asking them to have a ski trail i mean jesus are you higher up on the

fifth chain than me or something just because you wrote a seminal book on an intellectual i do miss my little my

little my little my little travel buddy one for oh [ __ ] so that makes me travel but

no if he was here it’d be it’d be like the trio it would be dangerous man because you and he’d be out trolling for

poontang like he’s always got a horny eye like does he oh yeah

yeah so just my eye that’s horny thing so so we so let’s continue our

story so we fly to denver and you you decided to go the night before to see some people yeah i decided to go the

night before too but then we never ended up meeting up because your boy jd bergeron or whatever bazaar bergeron

bertrand something some first name he’s a french dude and so he wanted he invited me to tag along too but then i

was going to meet up with my buddy chris semino and also karen and harlow’s and her husband and the guy said i don’t have room i’m

like yeah no it wasn’t really him it was his friends were coming over to cook and he didn’t want to add two more

people because he didn’t know if they’d be happy and i don’t understand that but he’s stupid we didn’t need to eat them

i think at the end of the day actually um they would have been quite happy to cook for you as well well the thing is

you’re making it sound bad but no it’s not it’s just interesting excuse me i we did actually invite you to come over

several times and you were like i’m too tired oh by the time you dinner yeah

but anyway so we saved the airport hotel which was which was really nice and then we almost missed our [ __ ] flight what did you think about

the breakfast it was the guy was slow and american and and we had a quite a funny chat about

cultural differences as this dude kept on coming over and asking me if i was finished and like

while you’re eating well i was eating i’m like no i’m not [ __ ] finished like the second time i

really snapped at him he was like i think you were justified to be honest yeah i wasn’t embarrassed it was appropriate at the time you were

like okay man chill but i think i said like he came over and he was like are you i’m actually literally had the

butter in my hand yeah and i was about to spread it in the bread and it was like yes yes you’re finished

and i’d already said i was like dude no i’m not finished i snapped at him and he was like okay

okay and then he heard me bitching about him to stefan and he looked unhappy about me bitching

but these [ __ ] have to learn somehow and stefan was like oh yeah it’s funny in europe

because it takes forever for the guy to come at the italian referendum because here we want to clear it off as

quickly as possible but for us europeans like us speaking to my girlfriend or about this prayer

and it was like but but don’t let that he’s he’s still available

lady just because he said girlfriend he’s still available don’t forget that she said

she was like because someone brought the check and i asked if that was rigged i don’t know if they can hear me yeah

the microphone doesn’t change dude okay i asked her if that was rude because that’s rude in the uk and she

was like no they just want to make sure that you know that they care they’re on it you’re not leaving your

way because in the europe because in the uk i feel like they were trying to kick me at the restaurant

if they brought the check without me asking for it of course we don’t even call it the check we call it the bell

so then we then we then we flew the next day no we flew

that we flew that morning to telluride but remember we couldn’t find freaking key lime air so we almost

missed our flight because we were screwing around the airport herring carrying luggage for 45 minutes finally got off oh yeah

that was funny it’s all the places really stressful i was stressing out but that’s an example where stress is

good because it forced me to stay busy and find the solution i don’t know i think you need to be more

effective [ __ ] off right but here here’s what

passed me off i looked at the depart shirts on the television and i told him the name of the airline that we were

going on and he continued to speak to the useless waste of space

i swear to god we had him before i don’t know i never heard of here

i bought my [ __ ] ticket from you uh you never heard of the airline that you

gave me a ticket to fly on yeah they’re completely they’re completely useless but

but stefan still didn’t trust me and still had to go because i still don’t understand your reasoning you found denver air

well did you see the flight numbers that what it was i went over to the departure screen and i looked down to find our

flight yeah and beside our flight it said the name of the airline okay now i see imagine that so anyway we

had a flight which was fine except he almost got kicked off because he those stewardess had to warn him three

times and she said i’ll have to report it to the captain we already told them this story i know so i’m skipping over so then we landed

and then his buddy his buddy lindsay burgess and her boyfriend hernan who live in

telluride coincidentally picked us up took us to the hot springs which is clothing optional and anthony

of course didn’t have a bathing suit so went junk out and uh then we sat in the sweat lodge with the indian man i think we talked

about the storm stolen you do a good indian accent brother today

our forefathers used to bang stone

but it was funny how when he said white men made us worship religion but then the white man made us thank god

we used to say we used to take stone and water because we are made of stone and water and then but he didn’t seem like bitter

about it he was like well white men he didn’t he wasn’t resenting the fact that white man made him worship god

yeah but he’s just telling the story he was just trying to educate us he was totally cool with it he seemed

like happy all happy indians happy native americans whatever you call

it but then the white man what then and he ate all the buffalo and

what the else did he do he gave us blankets with kovit 19.

so so then we had a nice dinner peggy cooks it’s a vegetarian dinner in your honor uh and we had dinner with that other lady

stayed and snapped at us or started to early yeah and uh and then

for everyone to start because that’s how it was raised but then the lady of the house started eating so i

started eating i copied her and the lady to my right [ __ ]

what do you call people like that who interfere unnecessarily anyway she was like oh you can’t eat

until david sits down that motherfucker’s cool he’s chilling he doesn’t mind

anyway plus by the way i saw you know i’ve read actually etiquette books and the the rule in the etiquette book from

emily baldrige or whatever emily post whatever as soon as one person starts eating then you then you can

then you can start eating something like that i mean you don’t have to wait for multiple people well anyway i thought if it’s good

enough for the lady of the house it’s good enough for me and if not take it up with peggy clearly

she’s just a rude [ __ ] but the second the second uh i liked her she always speaks no i like the other lady two

chests i like how she speaks her mind she’s quite funny but uh but then the second course came and she she snapped at me for or she

scowled to me for not for starting too early now i’ve simply never heard that rule have you ever in europe is that a rule

where okay i understand the rule but when the dinner’s first served you wait for everyone to start getting plated till

everyone sat down at the table right but for the second course do you have to wait

yeah well the thing is i’ve never heard that the funny thing is usually people go oh don’t wait for me to start

eating nowadays whereas i’ve been in a situation where my friends family just

all right we gotta get give me permission to start eating and wrap it up my brother i thought they were the ones being rude that’s what i’m

saying all right bye and now a few diversionary photo shots me and

t-boy on the lift and yet another of me and t-boy on the left him doing is

a gape look back to the show and now our brief video

clip of us skiing some glade skiing through the trees not too tight but anthony and i both did well no

wrecks just yet i believe this was the enchanted forest

run and don’t worry audio listeners this little skiing clip is almost over

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so [Applause]

so [Music] [Applause]

yo and one final photo of anthony before

we resume lift talks okay we’re on lift four now we’re gonna go meet

david and peggy we need to find out we need to find out how to get to nine from here i think you turn left let’s

see nine nine i want to do some blacks

hey do you speak german it cannot be deutsch no stupid

okay where’s no dude you’re on the wrong [ __ ] page turn around that’s the black and the ball back okay suck a dick

not in your life okay lift forward find four is that four yeah

there’s four now five nine what’s nine where’s nine okay so

we’re on four heading to meet dave and peggy over there about the blacks on nine and uh i just had and i thought

you know we’re going back on thursday so tomorrow’s today’s our last day skiing and i thought what the hell we’re here already we’ve

got a free place to stay wife said it’s cool if i come back friday so i’m going to stay another day

and gregory’s first thing you know i don’t know if i can do it i’m too poor and i’m like uh all right well you can

go home you can go home early then i’m saying he’s like you don’t think i’m gonna be left out

you know i can be talked into anything eh that’s not what i sound like

no with access my name’s not gregory either i keep confusing with anthony gregory

because you’re anthony of sorts and i always call him gregory

can you just be gregory and make it easier on me i don’t like that dude it’s like it’s like when these transsexual transgender people want you

to relearn the pronoun it’s like i’d like to but it’s just too difficult so

let me just go with my conventional my pronoun is master of time space in the universe my

pronoun is lis like for libertarians majesty anthony samroff anyhoo it’s like i just

can’t say no he’s like i can’t like that song from the musical i’m just a girl that can’t say no except

for i’m just a guy that can’t say no you’re gonna do it to adventure you’re gonna do it it’s actually me who suggested it first yesterday if you

recall you’re gonna be like uh yeah i’m gonna have to juggle some appointments around i do i do i need to move my clients

i hope they’re accommodating i’m gonna have to work the weekend for you kinsella i’d like to see people at the

weekend what’s this crawfish boiler you want me to go to on sunday oh yeah a libertarian that lives a little bit

south of houston invited us and i thought is it like at his house or something

yeah i think so will there be other libertarians there i don’t know well the thing is i thought i’d actually

bring you along as a secret guest that said can i have a plus one so he’ll probably think i’m bringing a lady actually i’m just praying let me ask you

a question who is this guy he’s he’s just he’s obviously a fan of the podcast

okay so and how far where does he live is this going on in public no just how

far from here we’re recording yeah how far does he look like an hour and a half in the car hour and a half

maybe not that far are you [ __ ] crazy maybe it’s only 40 minutes i don’t know i need to look like i mean

it’s barely worth driving 40 minutes to get crawfish but if you add libertarian to the mixture that makes it only worth driving 10 minutes

that’s true that’s about as long as there’s like a positive tongue and a negative tug well it’s definitely you definitely only

last 10 minutes with a positive tug if you know what i mean i’m hanging highly

okay

oh is that what is that what it was i didn’t i didn’t follow your your insinuations there oh all right we’ll go we got a dismount

this dismount this that’s what she said we gotta stick the landing on this one

all right bye all right we’re on the lift nine it wasn’t like we’re talking about the dinner party it wasn’t like intimidating

fancy right no that’s one of the things i was worried about like you know etiquette in the old days when you were

an aristocrat if you didn’t hold your silverware sorry i’m copying american

well you call it cutlery of course what you call a silverware people would know whether you were an aristocrat or not by

how you held your silverware or if you if you could be rich but you might have just become rich in which

case you wouldn’t know how to hold the silverware and they would judge you i didn’t know if there was all these protocols

that i wasn’t aware of that i should have been following but um one of the the girl that was

there mixing the cocktails told me secretly and not to tell anyone that i was her favorite

so i guess i charmed her over unfortunately her husband put a baby in her so that’s for our

cheeky bastard i know it’s okay we’re friends on facebook you already friended her she friended me

you’re so gregarious i like to make friends what’s her name leah something right yeah she’s a very lovely person

i don’t mind being friend zoned by her because she’s got a baby i’ve had some friends before in the past that are kind

of uh well actually they’re they’re european well people have already doubted your story when you said

i had some friends before in the past no the emphasis is in the past they know steffy’s a lovable little

fuzzball like rush limbaugh anyway um it was actually my brother’s ex-partner who was a dutch ambassador

he was extremely arrogant extremely socialist and whenever we would go to a restaurant

we would start chatting up to help he would get totally disgusted by us like don’t don’t talk to the help that’s so funny

that he was a socialist and he had that elitism isn’t it he was also and he submitted

he’s dead now so i can talk about him but uh i remember we were i was in capri with him i remember capri italy 1999 or 2000

and uh we were talking and uh madeleine albright came up

because she she was in the news and she had just it had just been revealed that she was jewish or something right

um like she didn’t know she was jewish but she just found out or something it was in the news and so robert said something like as if

you needed as if you needed proof to know that or like implying that you could have just looked at her and known that

which is this hyper jew aware european mentality i don’t know i hear a lot in the u is it

well remember you and i were talking about george bison the other day and i i’d known him for years i didn’t even know he was jewish and you you were right so

you noticed it and i didn’t say that’s a european thing yeah i know but you guys have your judors up all the time the thing is i’m from a jewish

household i don’t care you always have a [ __ ] excuse but i’m i’m obviously more aware because i’m

always like noticed when people are jewish europeans are more aware of it and i think upper crest

americans are but where i’m not a procrastinator well i’m self-made so we don’t give a [ __ ]

about what your background is yeah and i like that annoys some people but i don’t care no one cared at that

party either it was all in my head i was like worried that party the one we had last night what do

you mean like i don’t think i’m broke i don’t think i’m broke but i do think i’m the first

sorry the most impoverished person in telluride oh yeah i am broke after this holiday

though thanks a lot the thing is you live a modest lifestyle but and you live hand-to-mouth in a sense like you’re always making your

money but you’re earning money and you’re living on it and i love you she’s living in modest existence i love my life you’re just not

accumulating tons of cash yet yeah so people by all means uh donate to scottish liberty podcast or

buy like a 100 copies of my book and [ __ ] like that take your take your goggles up let’s get

a better picture send your mother sent your aunt to me for therapy

no i’m keeping them down because the sun is blowing in my eyes i just want to take a picture oh can you

take a picture with your film yes but my uh hearts open your eyes on

three one two three okay yeah you can take a picture while you

film i tell you you didn’t study engineering no what useless degree did you get

i majored in music and philosophy okay have you ever studied the suzuki music

teaching method no it’s kind of like the montessori of

music i was a good piano tutor the kids loved

me and that’s why their parents love me

but i prefer being a i actually felt like i was being bad when i quit teaching piano

because i thought i’m very talented at teaching and i felt like i was doing the world as

a service by not teaching piano but i feel like there being a therapist so higher calling in a

way but i like being a good influence on kids i like kids yeah so did michael jackson

because see if you’re like a really good tutor or a really good teacher to a kid when you teach them something and you’re

nice to them they remember you for the rest of their life as a positive influence as like an

adult that wasn’t an [ __ ] to them correct i also like to treat kids like adults

like i treat them as much as an adult as i can but you don’t treat me like an adult

i’m sure i do i just usually like an adult who doesn’t

quite know how to uh wipe his own earth

[Laughter]

this is all going on this show real quick no cuts no this is a blooper no it’s definitely

not how’d you like to ski down that [ __ ] hey look at this crazy dude

look at that that’s not allowed all right let’s let’s ski some blacks

now or as you as you would say reds we’re going to conquer some reds another

couple of picks i was trying to get anthony to uh raise his goggles and open his eyes but

the sun was so bright so he rolled his eyes in a funny way and here’s a little a little short clip of anthony skiing and

i think peggy too with me filming yes there we have it

followed by a couple of samurai action shots mid ski yes my beautiful iphone

recording on full display

and a cool shot on top of the mountain in portrait mode with a little fuzzy summer off in the background and then with the background removed and a cool

effect courtesy apple thank you okay that was a badass run that was amazing it’s a run called

plunge and if you’re in ever and tell your ride i recommend you take the plunge it is

super it’s really really good it’s nice and steep not many bumps but you can take some of

the side if you want and uh you can go really fast if you’re skillful enough

yeah i am skillful enough all right solomon just happened right so i get these guys to go ahead a

little bit because i just want to i just want to go at ridiculous speeds now

so stefan’s pretty fast but his friends like to go leisurely and they’re also more

their forms better than mine anyway i thought i saw stefan over to the side so i

i skied up behind the sky and

what’d you say he’s american and america did it’s like

what what’s up you [ __ ] something yeah what up you

[Laughter]

like it was nothing i was just like what up you [ __ ] [ __ ]

and what did he say he turned around and he was like saying what and then what’d you do it

was like he’s like still even after he said say what it

still took me a few seconds to recognize that this wasn’t you

and i just had to first i kind of burst that laughing i just apologize and i said i’m so sorry i

thought you were my friend you’re wearing a sandwich i

[Laughter]

i think he was ready for a fight say what but but also i said it so matter-of-factly

that it’s conceivable that he actually misheard me so i turned right into mosquito way i

was laughing my ass so that was my entertainment for the day

okay do you think i should tell david and peggy sure why not

they’re a little bit more conservative than us do you think they’ll laugh

uh yeah i think they’re continually bemused by us just because we’re nato’s compared to

them radicals anarchists how can you get to

like that age and like you’ve never even thought or heard about these things and like they’re not like hostile they’re like

well i just never heard of that i never thought of it like that like libertarian stuff it’s like how can you be in your 60s and

like that’s not being critical i know i’m not i’m just saying most people are like that and like but most people aren’t that

intellectually curious i know why is that well i think that

usually it comes out of some needs i don’t know in your case but in my case

like i had a crazy irrational parent and one that was let’s say

not open to reason and even though they were fairly reasonable in other ways once

they had an opinion they like to keep their opinion so i feel like i over develop my sense of

my reasoning faculty my need for consistency to navigate that especially my mum because

it’s like you keep on trying to figure it out so that you can avoid getting in trouble and it’s like if you’ve got my kind of

mind like your amp up yeah i’m put up and that doesn’t work so example more and you keep on amping it up

but i don’t know in other people’s case it seems the minority of people who are like determined to find out the

truth which makes me think that there must be either some events

or an environment that creates that creates a tendency to want to look

for it and then you go on from there like most of the really deep people i know are

suffering or have suffered and i think that’s because evolution

doesn’t make mistakes and doesn’t waste you know plants and animals don’t have organs and

organelles they don’t need being self-reflective is extremely

costly i got your organelle it’s extremely costly and energy and

efficient so why would someone be self-aware unless they need it to be

i don’t know if you got the end of that because you’re [ __ ] around with your face i think the microphone can hear airwaves no matter which direction i’m

pointing well i’m dropping some deep [ __ ] here i know that’s why i’m flipping it like to show

the world it’s flippy trippy i see hey your turn why do you think why do you think you’ve got such uh over

were you uh were you vaccine injured or something i don’t know if i was vaccine injured

i think i was vaccinated injured no i don’t think so

because if i’m injured it’s scary to think what i would have been if i wasn’t injured but maybe you’re better i am better

deliberately injure people so that they become libertarians yeah i was bitten by a radioactive rothbard well that’s what someone said on

facebook that’s pretty funny

i don’t know but i think we decided to stay another day if we can work out the flights [ __ ] a why not for sure

[ __ ] that’s what i see not racist wait what was that moon unit

song about valley girls like okay fine for sure for sure she’s a valley

girl and there is no cure wow the girl valley remember that i don’t know that

chin oh i gotta play it all right bye a couple of more snaps of uh

me and anthony on the lift having fun okay so you just said uh you could do

this this lit this run a bunch of times if it only had a high speed lift and i’m like oh

four four first four then last night with dave and peggy are talking they have a beautiful house

in telluride like within walking distance of the gondola and peggy’s like yeah well we’re on the

dark side of telluride yes he’s like everyone says it first when we see where our house says

they’re like oh well that’s the dark side of town i was like that is the most first world problem i’ve ever heard in

my life oh no my beautiful several million dollar house yeah that that i’m able to rent when i’m

not skiing it just so happens to be oh which is five minutes walk from the gondola

i should add just happens to be in the dark side of the town oh angels are crying

who are you poor peggy but we love you i know girls like to be teased

yeah girls just want to have fun someone should do a song about that i

know all right i gotta play it now i gotta play it okay so there was a guy that i stopped

besides stefan or at least what i thought was stefan way off the side of the

and it still took me a moment to realize that it wasn’t stefan even after the guy

said it i just want to apologize and say i’m sorry i thought you were my friend

you got some more jackos but i laughed i laughed and laughed and he was like okay okay

like he more or less gestured for me to clear off but it was quite impossible that he wouldn’t under i’ve understood what i

said because it’s hard to hear what people say i’ll say that again it’s like talking to

sometimes concella does this thing where he just goes off into his own world and you’re trying to tell him about

something but it’s like talking to a [ __ ] wall

i used to live with a guy that did that my friend george he’s a great jazz piano player and he’s

also an amazing cook but sometimes he just goes off into george world and you’re like

hello [Laughter] and then and then um

and then he gets annoyed at you for being like hello because he thinks you’re diminishing him

as a human being all right so we’re done you want to tell them about the little misadventure we

just had okay so we’re st we have to take the lift the the gondola home back because

the lifts have all closed so the line is crazy long because the idiots will only put one party at a time

into the sixth person so sometimes a gondola goes up with one person he’s got a capacity of six so

this is creating a ball what do we wait like 25 minutes in line maybe yeah appropriately so this this skinny girl wearing pajamas in

front of us in line and a weird weird kind of like uh what do you call that hair she had

ah so she’s like great guy in the front you know she was a hip she probably

she’s kind of like i have the funny thing is she’s like the kind of new age happies i hung around with in my early

twenties and used to have a soft spot for her but now just make me dry drive me absolutely nothing so she uh

she said anthony kind of got in her space and she’s like what the hell dude and he kind of backed up and she’s just

she goes could you kind of give me some space because i have cancer and you’re not wearing a mask dude

yeah she wasn’t even like she wasn’t even that uh you said it quite like assertively and

direct whereas she was kind of more liberal passive aggressive

the thing is i got in her space because i thought her and her boyfriend were exiting the line because he basically

went over the barrier i was like oh sorry i thought you guys were leaving the light and she’s like

she’s like i have yeah she could have said i have cancer as an afterthought yeah and i turned to

kinsella and i’m like i think she just lied to me and i thought no because that’s a pretty heavy thing to drop however

she probably is a democrat and they do lie at the time

what the [ __ ] i guess you’re risking your life for a gondola ride down to town you should be so sh you should be

self-isolating stop raising the case rate you’re selfish

it’s bad that you have cancer but don’t make us live like we have it too yeah i know why you just stay at home and die like

the

[Laughter] this is taking a pretty dark turn but you know it’s just gal’s humor we like

to make fun of people it doesn’t mean we actually yeah but but to your credit you then you gave her six feet space the whole i

yeah i stayed just in case she really has cancer do you know what

if she loves people wearing masks that much then she should go to a kkk right you know one of those mass

balls where everyone plays dude i thought about buying one of those there’s a like black death plague that looks like

the that’s right the doctors are actually war back then that those are awesome would that be cool to wear around

like sibling says oh you could have like have it hanging on your back and someone said put your mask on you can whip it out

someone says put your mask on and you whip it out without the mask not whip it out you

whip it out you rip it out in public earlier on you can sell a glass

what was it that you said we were having a coffee and you’re like something something let’s i wasn’t

really that funny after all he was like [ __ ] me and i’m like i like you more as a friend

i know it was very bad it didn’t really be a repeating i admit but these are left talks yeah it’s a

mixed bag you get what you get you get what you pay for yeah which is here he melds nothing i

need to clarify well what was the thing that i said when i said that i was heavily implying that blah

blah then you said something funny insinuating yeah and yeah

you can edit this bit out if you want this one’s pretty look at look how pretty we’re leaving tomorrow we decided not to

stay another day yeah i can say because i wrecked twice today the first time was really bad it was on

a black and he just tumbled for ages that was not good

i’ll tumble for you i’ll turn before you then the second time was quite

surprising because you went you just what happened you just went over your edge can you sing

seeing something good i used to be able to sing just sing one song seeing something i can join in with you let’s

let’s try it you start the song in all harmonies silent night

holy night all

[Music] holy

[Music] sleep in heavenly

peace in heavenly peace

that was terrible we could do a heavy metal version you can stop that i thought love was only

look how cool what a nice little town poor peggy lives on the dark side

she lives on the dark side of town she does

because we are made of snow and trees if you think about it those three have cellulose and we have

cells and the eagle flies in tree nest and tree

and eagle is our symbol snow is made of water we drink water and underneath the snow

is stone and we are made of stone we are made

we thank you we thank you we thank you

and white man stole the name of the ancient god and called his skeleton no but tell

we were waiting in this freaking line and then the thing stopped twice and we’re like what it takes one [ __ ] what’d you say it

takes like all the things there’s one [ __ ] to set everyone back

and then you’re like wouldn’t it be funny if it was an actual reach and then i didn’t i don’t know if it would be funny or not everyone’s going

for me even though i was just generic we have to dismount we might have a final lift talk in the

hot tub but this may be the penultimate clip sayonara we thank youtube audience stone and

water audience aloha there we go every day he has trouble taking these infernal boots off [ __ ] you well let’s see

oh your mother this is your fault if you haven’t filmed that i wouldn’t

have hurt myself you [ __ ] we’re not allowed to say that on youtube anymore they take videos down for the

f-word of course you can call someone a complete and utter ass looking scumbag piece of [ __ ] who

would sell his own grandmother for uh injection of heroin

from an aids infectious prostitute [Laughter]

you’re gonna miss your call dumbass you’re allowed to call someone that one

youtuber you got your boot off pretty good this time yeah well done well done on [ __ ] deck

where you going i don’t know where you going let’s see what you’re doing here

he’s following me into my room he does this every day i can’t stand it every time i hear his ski bits in the

hall i know something bad could happen to me i can’t take it anymore

please help i can hear this please help

you really have a talent with making your bed i see it’s beautiful do you have do you at least have the

decency to shut your door do you at least have the decency to shut your door with your jerk you know

[Laughter] yes all right we’re here in

west end bistro last night here in telluride this will be the cap off of our lift our

lift talks just talk number two that’s true we didn’t get in the hot tub but you know what it’s very romantic

you can keep talking the microphone’s still working that’s it he’s taking me out for a romantic meal

on her last night it is yeah look i have a mocktail what do you think about that

i think

i’m just kidding look i’m drinking water i don’t even have a single alcohol

so we skipped a nice dinner invitation from our hosts to have leftovers from

our repast last night what was the word were passed we were patched leftovers never mind

drip past so can’t believe it

i decided not to ski anymore because i wrecked twice today and one of the snowmobile guys says you

know when you start skiing for a few days when you have a ski you know a regular then on the

third or fourth day you start getting way more confident but your skill doesn’t go up so you get more dangerous and that’s what

happened to me my skill went up and i did the thing is i know i’m

your friends well our friends and thought i was going really fast but

actually i never go faster than i can handle because as soon as i go slightly out of control i kind of freak out and

slow down so i thought it was really good it was really fun i loved doing those

blacks um and we went fast it was good

yeah well i almost fell as well actually um at one point it wasn’t when we were

going fast it was just when we were going a trail that’s when i didn’t expect to so the snow must have been uneven and my

legs parted like this like your mum’s and i almost

wrecked but i i managed to rebalance myself when you least expect it no not even in

a difficult the second time you felt it wasn’t in a difficult place no i was just just shaking from the

first one that sometimes happens yeah so anyway it was good though i think i injured my hand

my elbow my shoulder and my rib and my neck but other than that i’m fine

yeah any part in any way we should conclude well

it’s it’s i tried to do a hot tub to have a hot tub conversations but i got in there and it was lukewarm the

heater broke last night so who who would have done that david said

he blamed it on a scotsman farting in the tub

i wonder who he could have been talking about when did a scotsman climb into the tub

never mind fart oh yesterday and i have it on video it was on

yesterday’s lift talks you how did you get how did you video me

farting in the hot tub i didn’t you lied no i said i have us in the hot tub

anyway this is weston bistro at the hotel telly ride looks kind of looks kind of nice so we’ll see

yeah you found a nice veggie option delicious we’re going to have some ramen noodles

with all sorts of trimmings let’s do lamborghini oh it sounds good now what else did we have

we’re going to have to share some truffle fries that sense porches you know what that is really

there’s a there’s something called truffle oil which is oil artificially flavored to taste like truffles

so they just pour truffle flavored oil on it per show that’s like fraud would that be

legal in a libertarian order probably because people generally know or they should know

and if they don’t they’re stupid yep you can’t cure stupid that’s what my my well my cousin cindy

littlefield says uh you can’t you can’t pick stupid that’s true or maybe there’s another one of my

cousins anyway all right let’s sign up we’re

gonna fly out tomorrow peace out okay hey

what are you doing i’m sending my parents uh robert redford from the 90s

yeah yeah i just was i was just we’re at this coffee shop our last day tell you right i was just [ __ ] with the

with t-boy here i told him i said hey robert reporter’s right outside i thought he looks pretty young and he yeah well he believed me he was

like really seriously for sure i was like yeah go talk to him while i’m using the bathroom

i said the most i do if i met a celebrity would be to ask them for a cigarette and pretend i don’t even know who they

are but i’ve quit smoking so but you can still ask him for a cigarette

sure i can ask him for a cigarette and throw them in the trash and say i quit 10 weeks ago but you can’t stop

[ __ ] you wouldn’t say that to robert redford because he’s a respected actor

respected by him just because he’s respected by the vox popularity

i mean the uh the film festival in uh in salt lake city

what’s it called uh the famous film festival

gay film festival sundance sundance film festival no it’s not it’s not gay your homophobia is starting

to agree on my nerves i like going home can you do the sign of the cross

sign of the cross are you not catholic i can do it this is that i don’t know if you don’t know i’m not

like the divi brothers jesus is just all right with me when we did sign lacrosse we would say

um domino’s pizza delivers get it yeah but not very good pizza i do

i still don’t get it it’s just good pizza don’t be a pizza snob this is ridiculous

garbage pizza pizzas like sex good good pizza is great but even bad pizza is still pretty

good i disagree well that’s because you’re scottish and you’re disagreeable

i don’t think i’m not disappeared let’s go get a postcard for your parrot let’s get a postcard for your rents and

say goodbye to lyft talk coda bye to left talk call me

squeezing your girlfriend or mom’s bye-bye robert redford bye rob okay this is uh pretty much it

for the audio version uh this is just a final photo of us in front of the uh the christmas tree made of snow skis and

this is a little video from the telluride app kind of showing uh

that we hit a top speed of 50 to 51.2 miles an hour at one point the entity may be a little

faster and then it kind of shows the map of where we went and traces our

part of our path on on this this final day of skiing so

you can stop listening now for the audio version but the uh the youtube video will show a little bit

more of this to end it out sayonara see you later thanks for listening

anthony i had a good time he’s at his airbnb in houston right now i’m on my porch recording this

while editing this video on imovie and uh we had a good time and if it’s well received who knows what

this will lead to in the future can sell on liberty number xyz signing

out and scottish liberty podcast too bye-bye

you