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“What Libertarianism Is”: Ukrainian Translation

My article “What Libertarianism Is” has been translated into Ukrainian, as  “Що таке “лібертаріанство.” Ukrainian is a first; with this, my work has now been translated into 15 languages.

 

Що таке “лібертаріанство”

Stephan Kinsella, “What Libertarianism Is”, public translation into Ukrainian from English More about this translation.

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Власність, права, та свобода

Лібертарі зазвичай мають спільні погляди на широке коло практик та принципів. Тим не менш, досягти консенсусу щодо визначальних характеристик лібертаріанства, або щодо його рис, які вирізняють його з поміж інших політичних теорій та систем, наразі не так вже й просто.

Існує безліч різноманітних формулювань. Стверджується, що лібертаріанство — це про права особистості, права власності[1], вільний ринок, капіталізм, справедливість, або принцип ненападу. Проте, не будь-що з переліченого підходить. Капіталізм та вільний ринок змальовують каталлактичні умови, що постають (чи є прийнятними) в лібертаріанському суспільстві, але вони не розкривають інших аспектів лібертаріанства. А права особистості, справедливість, та ненапад зводяться до прав власності. Як пояснив Мюррей Ротбард, права особистості є не що інше, як права власності.[2] Справедливість же, в свою чергу — це коли кожен отримує належне йому (визначене його правами).[3]

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Ralph Raico, R.I.P.

The great libertarian scholar Ralph Raico died last month (Dec. 13, 2016). 1

Ralph and I were friends for the last 20 years. I first met Ralph when I started attending Mises Institute events when I was a young lawyer, in the mid-1990s. 2 For many years, he was a fixture at the Mises Institute events I attended. We talked, had lunches, went to dinners together for years. I was at the Mises Institute event in the late 90s, if I recall correctly, that Objectivist George Reisman attended, fresh from his excommunication from the Ayn Rand Institute, where Reisman and Ralph, long-estranged by internecine libertarian squabbles, were reunited and rekindled their friendship. It was a pleasure to see, especially for me, as a former Randian of sorts myself.

In the last few years, Ralph was less mobile, and we would talk on occasion by email, or on the phone. He was supportive of the founding of Hans-Hermann Hoppe’s Property and Freedom Society PFS in 2006, with which I’ve also been involved since its inception, and he was a Senior Fellow at the Mises Institute for many years. [continue reading…]

  1. For other tributes to Ralph, see e.g. Jeff Tucker, Ralph Raico’s Liberal Mind and Spirit; Mark Thornton, True Liberalism: A Personal Reflection in Honor of Ralph Raico; Tom Woods show, Ep. 816 Liberty Lost a Great Historian in 2016; and Professor Hoppe’s remarks in the introductory portion of PFP168 | Sean Gabb, “The Value of the Greek and Roman Classics” (PFS 2017). []
  2. See How I Became A Libertarian, December 18, 2002, LewRockwell.com (published as “Being a Libertarian” in I Chose Liberty: Autobiographies of Contemporary Libertarians (compiled by Walter Block; Mises Institute 2010.) []
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Related:

Rothbard, in The Ethics of Liberty, writes of the disastrous consequences of the fallacious Marxian labor theory of value:

“I am convinced, however, that the real motor for social and political change in our time has been a moral indignation arising from the fallacious theory of surplus value: that the capitalists have stolen the rightful property of the workers, and therefore that existing titles to accumulated capital are unjust. Given this hypothesis, the remainder of the impetus for both Marxism and anarchosyndicalism follow quite logically. From an apprehension of what appears to be monstrous injustice flows the call for “expropriation of the expropriators,” and, in both cases, for some form of “reversion” of the ownership and the control of the property to the workers.[23] Their arguments cannot be successfully countered by the maxims of utilitarian economics or philosophy, but only by dealing forthrightly with the moral problem, with the problem of the justice or injustice of various claims to property.” 1

Rothbard also quite rightly rejected the idea that property titles are to be overturned if we cannot trace title back to Adam, that is, if there is any taint in the “chain of title”—what Jeff Tucker has referred to as “scrupulosity”. 2 As Rothbard wrote in an important addendum to a seminal 1974 paper:

“It might be charged that our theory of justice in property titles is deficient because in the real world most landed (and even other) property has a past history so tangled that it becomes impossible to identify who or what has committed coercion and therefore who the current just owner may be. But the point of the “homestead principle” is that if we don’t know what crimes have been committed in acquiring the property in the past, or if we don’t know the victims or their heirs, then the current owner becomes the legitimate and just owner on homestead grounds. In short, if Jones owns a piece of land at the present time, and we don’t know what crimes were committed to arrive at the current title, then Jones, as the current owner, becomes as fully legitimate a property owner of this land as he does over his own person. Overthrow of existing property title only becomes legitimate if the victims or their heirs can present an authenticated, demonstrable, and specific claim to the property. Failing such conditions, existing landowners possess a fully moral right to their property.” 3

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  1. PDF and epub; quote from ch. 9, Property and Criminality, text included in chs. 6-9 excerpt here. []
  2. See Tucker, Scrupulosity and the Condemnation of Every Existing Business, archived comments here; discussed in my post Vulgarism, Left-libertarianism, Taco Bell, and “Power”; see also my posts Is Macy’s Part of the State? A Critique of Left Deviationists and The Walmart Question, or, the Unsupported Assertions of Left-Libertarianism (Apr. 26, 2009) (archived comments). []
  3. Justice and Property Rights: Rothbard on Scarcity, Property, Contracts…, Libertarian Standard (Nov. 19, 2010); see also Mises, Rothbard, and Hoppe on the “Original Sin” in the Distribution of Property Rights. []
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Disinvited From Cato

[Update: see various biographical pieces on my publications page, including Alan D. Bergman, Adopting Liberty: The Stephan Kinsella Story (2025).]

Here comes a lot of background, just to lead up to a few final paragraphs that get to what I want to say.

As I’ve recounted before, 1 I started my legal vocation and libertarian avocation 2 around the same time, almost twenty-five years ago, in 1992. That year, I started practicing law, and also published my first scholarly libertarian article. 3 In 1994 my wife and I moved from Houston to Philadelphia for a few years, and around that time I started attending Mises Institute and other libertarian conferences. The contacts I was making with various libertarian thinkers and organizations started to increase, partly because of the rise of email and then the Internet around that time. At the time, I would devour everything libertarian-related that I could get my hands onto—The Freeman from FEE; Liberty magazine; Reason magazine; The Free Market, the Journal of Libertarian Studies, and the Review of Austrian Economics from the Mises Institute; Cato Journal; Reason Papers; Objectivity; Jeffrey Friedman’s Critical Review; various other newsletters and journals; and so on. In college I would go to the LSU library and photocopy old Ayn Rand related newsletters. In grad school in London, 1991–92, I found a copy of Rothbard’s Ethics of Liberty in the University of London library. It was then out of print and hard to find. So I paid something like 10p a page to photocopy it by hand, vellum bound it, and for years that was my main marked-up copy of that classic text, until the 1998 edition was released by the Mises Institute with an amazing introduction by Hans-Hermann Hoppe. 4

Yeah, I was that kind of geek. Copying Ayn Rand newsletters and Rothbard books from college libraries. But I somehow got a normal woman to marry me anyhow.

From the late 1980s to the mid 1990s, I talked with a large number of libertarian thinkers, by email, phone, in person, or even by regular snail mail. As I noted in The Genesis of Estoppel: My Libertarian Rights Theory, in law school I had become fascinated by Hoppe’s “argumentation ethics” defense of libertarian rights. This led to my exploring related material by a number of thinkers, including libertarians like Tibor Machan and Roger Pilon. 5 Hoppe had developed his argumentation ethics defense of libertarian rights, in part based on the work of his PhD advisor and mentor, the brilliant and famous (and socialist) German philosopher Jürgen Habermas, and fellow German philosopher Karl-Otto Apel, along with some insights from Rothbard and Mises, plus some original insights, and a libertarian spin, by Hoppe. It was an original and brilliant new spin on libertarian rights theory that Rothbard enthusiastically adopted. Rothbard became the mentor, Hoppe his protege and intellectual colleague from the mid-1980s to Rothbard’s death in 1995. [continue reading…]

  1.  How I Became A LibertarianThe Genesis of Estoppel: My Libertarian Rights TheoryMy Failed Libertarian Speaking Hiatus; Memories of Mises Institute and Other Events, 1988–2015. []
  2. See my post, Career Advice by North, discussing the distinction and interplay between career and calling, vocation and avocation. []
  3.  Estoppel: A New Justification for Individual Rights, published in Reason Papers No. 17 (Fall 1992). []
  4. See Murray N. Rothbard and the Ethics of Liberty, Introduction to Murray N. Rothbard, The Ethics of Liberty (New York: New York University Press, 1998) . []
  5.  See links in “Argumentation Ethics and Liberty: A Concise Guide”; The Genesis of Estoppel: My Libertarian Rights Theory: namely: Pilon, “A Theory of Rights: Toward Limited Government“; Gewirth, “The Basis and Content of Human Rights“; Pilon, “Ordering Rights Consistently: Or, What We Do and Do Not Have Rights To.” []
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The Undeniable Morality of Capitalism

Note: An updated and revised version of this article is included as chap. 22 of Legal Foundations of a Free Society (Houston: Papinian Press, 2023). Text below.

Re Goldberg’s cited article, it’s in New Individualist Review

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Stephan Kinsella, “The Undeniable Morality of Capitalism” (pdf; text version), St. Mary’s L. J. 25, no. 4 (1994): 1419–47  (review essay of Hans-Hermann Hoppe, The Economics and Ethics of Private Property (1993)). Revised version to be included in Legal Foundations of a Free Society (2023).

[Update: Re Rand and Kant: Objectivist Round-up, April 2025: “2. Ayn Rand Institute (ARI) philosopher Greg Salmieri is asked how much of Kant Rand read.  He says he doesn’t know because we don’t have any books by Kant that she “marked up.”  Salmieri says that Rand likely learned a lot about Kant from Peikoff and she may have studied the various arguments in the Critique of Pure Reason with him.  Brook asks Salmieri about Rand’s take on Kant and he says it’s correct albeit on a high level.”]

Text below (not yet edited; some blockquotes and italics missing)

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The Undeniable Morality of Capitalism

Originally published in 1994, this is one of my first scholarly articles.* As noted in “How I Became a Libertarian” (ch. 1), I sent this article to Hoppe and soon after met him and others at the Mises Institute. I have made only minimal revisions to the original piece, except for deleting the initial section “Criticisms,” since, in retrospect, these criticisms now seem silly and trivial.

 

*    Stephan Kinsella, “The Undeniable Morality of Capitalism,” St. Mary’s L. J. 25, no. 4 (1994): 1419–47, a review essay of Hans-Hermann Hoppe, The Economics and Ethics of Private Property (Boston/Dordrecht/London, Kluwer Academic Publishers, 1993). In this chapter I will cite to the most recent edition, The Economics and Ethics of Private Property: Studies in Political Economy and Philosophy (Auburn, Ala.: Mises Institute, 2006 [1993]; www.hanshoppe.com/eepp); hereinafter “EEPP.”

†   In the original article, I wrote that it was unfortunate that Hoppe’s article “In Defense of Extreme Rationalism” was not included in EEPP. See Hoppe, “In Defense of Extreme Rationalism: Thoughts on Donald McCloskey’s The Rhetoric of Economics,” Rev. Austrian Econ. 3, no. 1 (1989; https://mises.org/library/defense-extreme-rationalism-thoughts-donald-mccloskys-rhetoric-economics): 179–214. This has now been remedied, as this article was later published in Hans-Hermann Hoppe, The Great Fiction: Property, Economy, Society, and the Politics of Decline (Second Expanded Edition, Mises Institute, 2021; www.hanshoppe.com/tgf).

 

 

  1. Introduction 586
  2. Individual Rights 588
  3. The Reception of Hoppe’s Ideas 588
  4. Argumentation Ethics 589
  5. Estoppel and Directions for Further Inquiry 591
  6. Remaining Questions—Rights of Fetuses, Babies, and Defective
    Humans 594
  7. Hoppe, Rothbard, Rand, and
    Classical Natural Rights Theory 595
  8. Hoppe’s Value-Free (?) Ethics 597
  9. Hoppe’s Conception of “Rights” 597
  10. Habermas’s and Apel’s “Discourse Ethics” and Gewirth’s and Pilon’s
    “Principle of Generic Consistency” 598

III. Epistemology                                   601

  1. The Application of Praxeology
    to Epistemology and Ethics 601
  2. Hoppe and Kant Versus Rand 603
  3. A Priori Truths 606
  4. Economics 607
  5. Public Goods Theory and the
    Production of Security 607
  6. The Economics and Sociology
    of Taxation 608
  7. Banking, Nation States, and
    International Politics 611
  8. Marxism Reformed by Praxeology 613
  9. Mises Versus Keynes 614
  10. Conclusion 614

 

 

I. INTRODUCTION

If Professor Hans-Hermann Hoppe’s books and articles would come already-underlined and highlighted, it would save readers a lot of time. Or at least each book should come with a free pen attached. For when I follow my usual habit of underlining, circling, checking, starring, or highlighting important insights in the books I read, I find that my copies of Hoppe’s books start to look as if a two-year-old with a crayon had gotten hold of them.

In 1989, Hoppe published A Theory of Socialism and Capitalism, in my eyes one of the most important books of the decade for its analysis of capitalism, socialism, and property rights, focus on scarcity in property and economic theory, and its revolutionary “argumentation ethic” defense of individual rights.[1] Over the past few years, Hoppe has produced a significant assortment of articles elaborating on his argumentation ethic and the epistemology that underlies it, as well as on his impressive economic writings. His new book, The Economics and Ethics of Private Property, is a collection of almost all of these related writings (not counting a large number of writings published previously in German). This may come as a disappointment to some, who, like me, were expecting a new treatise, building upon the prior one. The book is significant, nonetheless, for drawing together material previously published in such varied sources as Liberty magazine, the Journal of Libertarian Studies, the Review of Austrian Economics, Ratio, and others.[2]

II. INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS

A. The Reception of Hoppe’s Ideas

This book is fascinating, stimulating, provocative, and ground-breaking. In the September 1988 issue of Liberty, Hoppe published “The Ultimate Justification of the Private Property Ethic.” This article gave rise to a symposium, “Breakthrough or Buncombe?”, published in the November 1988 issue of Liberty, containing the critical comments of ten commentators, including Murray Rothbard, Tibor Machan, David Friedman, Leland Yeager, David Gordon, Douglas Rasmussen, David Ramsay Steele, Timothy Virkkala, and others.

To my surprise, almost all of these libertarian commentators were unimpressed by, if not downright hostile to, Hoppe’s argument. Only Murray Rothbard gave Hoppe’s thesis wholehearted endorsement and recognized its validity and significance:

In a dazzling breakthrough for political philosophy in general and for libertarianism in particular, he has managed to transcend the famous is/ought, fact/value dichotomy that has plagued philosophy since the days of the scholastics, and that had brought modern libertarianism into a tiresome deadlock. Not only that: Hans Hoppe has managed to establish the case for anarcho-capitalist-Lockean rights in an unprecedentedly hard-core manner, one that makes my own natural law/natural rights position seem almost wimpy in comparison.[3]

Why Hoppe’s ideas, which are such an important advance in political and libertarian thought, have failed to cause more excitement or gain more adherents than they have is baffling, but the best solution to this is the publication of further elaborations and defenses contained in Hoppe’s newest book.

The book is divided into two parts, “Economics” and “Philosophy.” Because Part Two: Philosophy contains Hoppe’s most important ideas—his defense of individual rights—I will discuss this part first. The six chapters (chapters 6 through 11) in Part Two plus the “Four Critical Replies” in the Appendix present Hoppe’s argumentation ethic and its underlying epistemology—often repeatedly and redundantly, because the chapters were first published as independent papers, and little editing, except in chapter 6, has been done to integrate them or to delete redundancies.

B. Argumentation Ethics

Hoppe’s “argumentation ethics” theory, briefly stated, starts by noting that all truths, including ethics and normative statements, must be discoverable through the process of argumentation. This “a priori of communication and argumentation” is undeniable, as one would have to contradict oneself in using argument to deny this. Therefore, whatever facts or norms are postulated while engaging in argumentation cannot be contradicted by any proposed fact or norms.[4] As Hoppe writes:

In analyzing any actual norm proposal reason’s task is merely confined to analyzing whether or not it is logically consistent with the very ethics which the proponent must presuppose as valid insofar as he is able to make his proposal at all.[5]

In argumentation, the validity of certain implications cannot be disputed. For example, the universalization principle, as formulated in the Golden Rule of ethics or in the Kantian Categorical Imperative, states:

… that only those norms can be justified that can be formulated as general principles which without exception are valid for everyone. Indeed, as it is implied in argumentation that everyone who can understand an argument must in principle be able to be convinced by it simply because of its argumentative force, the universalization principle of ethics can now be understood and explained in the wider a priori of communication and argumentation.[6]

In other words, anyone who argues accepts the validity of the universalization principle implicitly.

“The universalization principle only provides one with a purely formal criterion for morality…. However, there are other positive norms implied in argumentation apart from” this principle.[7] First Hoppe points out three interrelated facts: “First, that argumentation is not only a cognitive but a practical affair. Second, that argumentation, as a form of action, implies the use of the scarce resource of one’s body. And third, that argumentation is a conflict-free way of interacting.”[8]

Therefore, anyone engaging in argumentation (or, indeed, any discourse at all, even with oneself) must accept the presupposed right of self-ownership of all listeners and even potential listeners: for otherwise the listener would not be able to consider freely and accept or reject the proposed argument, which is undeniably a goal of argumentation. “It is only as long as there is at least an implicit recognition of each individual’s property right in his or her own body that argumentation can take place.”[9] The libertarian nonaggression principle—“nobody has the right to uninvitedly aggress against the body of any other person and thus delimit or restrict anyone’s control over his own body”—is implied in the concept of argumentative justification, because justifying means justifying without having to rely on coercion.

The concomitant right to homestead private property is also presupposed by anyone engaging in argumentation: since the use of naturalresources, i.e., property rights in land, food, water, etc., is absolutely necessary for any listener to survive and be able to participate in an argument, and since homesteading unowned property is the only objective and conflict-free way to assign property rights, all arguers must also presuppose the validity of the homesteading of unowned property, the Lockean “mixing of labor” with scarce resources, for otherwise argumentation could not occur.[10] And, of course, the right to self-ownership plus the right to homestead are the bases of laissez-faire capitalism.[11]

C. Estoppel and Directions for Further Inquiry

Professor Hoppe’s discovery of such a rock-solid defense of individual rights is a profoundly important achievement. Because so many of Hoppe’s insights deserve further exploration and development, one welcomes future writing by Hoppe and by others building upon his work.[12]

For example, in my own article, “Estoppel: A New Justification for Individual Rights,”[13] I draw on Hoppe’s work—especially his application of the principle of universalizability to the activity of argumentation—in making another argumentation-based or discourse-based defense of individual rights. Hoppe’s main argument is that any person who argues must accept certain principles that must be implicitly acknowledged by any person engaged in the very activity of arguing, and that these principles imply the rights of self-ownership and homesteading, as they are incompatible with any other—“socialist”—ethic. In my estoppel theory, I argue that the existence of rights can be demonstrated by looking at the consistency of the arguments made by a rights violator at the moment when he is about to be punished for the rights violation.

Since what is important about rights is that they are (legitimately) enforceable, if an alleged rights-violator is unable to meaningfully object to his punishment or, indeed, if he implicitly consents to his punishment, then this is enough to justify the existence of the rights claimed. And it is indeed true that if A initiates violence against B, A is estopped, or prevented, from complaining (i.e., objecting or withholding consent) if B retaliates or punishes A. For A has admitted the validity of aggression, and it would be inconsistent for him to object to his own punishment, which is, after all, “only” aggression.

By the same token, however, laws that attempt to enforce “positive” rights (such as the right to food or a job) or to prohibit nonaggressive behavior (such as expression, prostitution, the use of drugs, or the offer to pay someone less than minimum wage) are not legitimate. For here the state, in enforcing such laws against nonaggressors, is itself an aggressor.[14] If the imprisoned, nonaggressive “criminal” asserts his right to be freed and his concomitant right to use force against the aggressor-state to escape, the state cannot deny this asserted right nor the legitimacy of the prisoner’s (proposed) use of force against the state, since the state, by being an aggressor, is estopped from denying the legitimacy of the use of force. Since the prisoner has a right to be freed, of course the state has no contrary “right” to imprison him. By this same logic, an aggressive criminal has a right to not be disproportionately punished. For example, someone who steals an ink pen may not be executed as punishment.[15]

It is hoped that others will also build upon or critique Hoppe’s work. Murray Rothbard stated in the Liberty symposium that “a future research program for Hoppe and other libertarian philosophers would be (a) to see how far axiomatics can be extended into other spheres of ethics, or (b) to see if and how this axiomatic could be integrated into the standard natural law approach.”[16] Also of interest would be a systematic cataloguing of just what is a priori axiomatic knowledge.[17]

Another tantalizing idea deserving further exploration is Hoppe’s discussion of free will:

[O]ne must regard one’s knowledge and actions as uncaused. One might hold this conception of “freedom” to be an illusion, and from the point of view of a “scientist” with cognitive powers substantially superior to any human intelligence, from the point of view of God, for example, such a description may well be correct—but we are not God, and even if freedom is illusory from His standpoint, for we [sic] human beings it is a necessary illusion.[18]

D. Remaining Questions—Rights of Fetuses,
Babies, and Defective Humans

Hoppe establishes the foundation for individual rights, but takes it no further. One almost salivates at the prospect of Hoppe writing more on this, answering the questions of exactly how to apply the rights of self-ownership and homesteading to the hard cases, such as fetuses, babies, children, and retarded people (who, after all, cannot argue). Hoppe deals only suggestively or obliquely with this problem: the question of what is just or unjust “does not arise vis-à-vis a stone or fish, because they are incapable of engaging in such exchanges and of producing validity-claiming propositions.”[19]

What about fetuses, or even babies? Another related statement of Hoppe’s fails to answer this question:

Obviously, we could have conflicts regarding the use of scarce resources with, let us say, an elephant or a mosquito, yet we would not consider it possible to resolve these conflicts by means of proposing property norms. The avoidance of possible conflicts, in such cases, is merely a technological, not an ethical, problem. For it to turn into an ethical problem, it is also necessary that the conflicting actors be capable, in principle, of argumentation.[20]

Is a baby “in principle” capable of argumentation? Hoppe’s view on this is unfortunately unrevealed.

  1. Hoppe, Rothbard, Rand, and Classical Natural Rights Theory

Hoppe never commits himself as to whether he believes other defenders of natural rights—such as Rothbard, whom Hoppe obviously admires greatly—are correct in their support of natural law and natural rights. He remains noncommittal, stating:

Agreeing with Rothbard on the possibility of a rational ethic and, more specifically, on the fact that only a libertarian ethic can indeed be morally justified, I want to propose here a different, non-natural-rights approach to establishing these two related claims. It has been a common quarrel with the natural rights position, even by sympathetic readers, that the concept of human nature is far “too diffuse and varied to provide a determinate set of contents of natural law.”[21]

Does Hoppe agree that natural law is hogwash? Is he a “sympathetic reader “? One gets the impression that he agrees with this criticism of natural law. If so, however, it is unclear how Rothbard, aligning himself with the natural law or natural rights tradition of philosophy, in “The Ethics of Liberty presents the full case [that] the libertarian property norms” are the rules that “can be discerned by means of reason as grounded in the very nature of man.”[22]

Hoppe even attempts to define his own theory as being, really, a new type of natural rights theory:

Nor, then, do I claim that it is impossible to interpret my approach as falling in a “rightly conceived” natural rights tradition after all…. What is claimed, though, is that the following approach is clearly out of line with what the natural rights approach has actually come to be, and that it owes nothing to this tradition as it stands…. Of course, then, since the capability of argumentation is an essential part of human nature—one could not even say anything about the latter without the former—it could also be argued that norms which cannot be defended effectively in the course of argumentation are also incompatible with human nature.[23]

Yet, Hoppe states:

[T]his defense of private property is essentially also Rothbard’s. In spite of his formal allegiance to the natural rights tradition Rothbard, in what I consider his most crucial argument in defense of a private property ethic, not only chooses essentially the same starting point—argumentation—but also gives a justification by means of a priori reasoning almost identical to the one just developed. To prove the point I can do no better than simply quote: “Now, any person participating in any sort of discussion, including one on values, is, by virtue of so participating, alive and affirming life. For if he were really opposed to life he would have no business continuing to be alive. Hence, the supposed opponent of life is really affirming it in the very process of discussion, and hence the preservation and furtherance of one’s life takes on the stature of an incontestable axiom.”[24]

F. Hoppe’s Value-Free (?) Ethics

In addition to Hoppe’s seeming unwillingness to criticize wholeheartedly the natural rights tradition, he is also curiously reluctant to admit the ethical aspects of his argumentation ethic:

Here the praxeological proof of libertarianism has the advantage of offering a completely value-free justification of private property. It remains entirely in the realm of is-statements, and nowhere tries to derive an ought from an is. The structure of the argument is this: (a) justification is propositional justification—a priori true is-statement; (b) argumentation presupposes property in one’s body and the homesteading principle—a priori true is-statement; and (c) then, no deviation from this ethic can be argumentatively justified—a priori true is-statement.[25]

Now I do not see how this is a “completely value-free justification of private property.” Private property means rights in private property; and “rights” is indeed a normative, value-laden concept. Of course, in a trivial sense, any statement such as “A should do X” is an is-statement, because one is implicitly stating that “it is the case that A should do X.” But this is still really an ought-statement, as is step (b) above, in making a statement about property rights. I do not see, however, why Hoppe is reluctant to admit this, as this is not a defect of his argument, but is in fact why it is so powerful—because it does justify the subset of ethics concerning rights.

G. Hoppe’s Conception of “Rights”

Unfortunately, Hoppe never clearly defines what he means by “rights,” which leads to some slight confusion in the presentation of aspects of his argument.[26] Primarily, he uses the word in a normative, ethical sense. He occasionally, however, seems to mean “power,” which is value-neutral and non-normative: “[I]f no one had the right to acquire and control anything except his own body … then we would all cease to exist….”[27] It is true that we would all cease to exist if we had no power or ability to acquire and control things; however, a “right” is not logically necessary for this power to be exercised. For example, in a Robinsonade, Crusoe alone on his desert island has no rights because rights are relevant only socially, as they concern relationships between individuals. Yet Crusoe, if he has the power to build a hut and gather fruit, can actually survive.

Certainly we have the ability to affect the world, otherwise we would not continue to exist—and this may explain why, according to Hoppe’s theory, we must have the right to exercise this ability. But the problem with switching to the power-sense of “rights” in a justification of normative-rights is that one may end up justifying the former and not the latter, or neither. And certainly it would be both useless and futile to try to prove that we all have the actual ability and power to control our bodies and to homestead; the very existence of the Internal Revenue Service disproves this contention immediately. Hoppe’s inconsistent use of “rights” is not fatal to his argument, but clarification of this step in his argument and a precise definition of “rights” would be welcome.[28]

H. Habermas’s and Apel’s “Discourse Ethics” and Gewirth’s
and Pilon’s “Principle of Generic Consistency”

Much of Hoppe’s argumentation ethics draws on the “discourse ethics” theories of Jürgen Habermas and Karl-Otto Apel.[29] Hoppe’s argumentation ethic also bears some similarities to Alan Gewirth’s “dialectically necessary method.”[30] Applying this method and the principle of universalizability, Gewirth derives the precept “act in accord with the generic rights of your recipients as well as of yourself,” which he calls the “Principle of Generic Consistency” (PGC).[31] Gewirth holds that his theory shows that individuals have rights to “freedom and well-being,” which in turn justify a welfare state.[32]

Hoppe criticizes Gewirth’s “dialectically necessary method” because it is based on action in general as opposed to the specific communicative subcategory of action.[33] It is interesting to note that Gewirth’s former student, Roger Pilon, believes Gewirth’s PGC is correct, important, and pathbreaking, but that Gewirth himself has applied his own theories incorrectly in an attempt to justify the welfare state.[34] The libertarian Pilon believes he can reform his own teacher’s work in order to justify libertarian principles.[35] Similarly, Hoppe believes his former teacher Habermas’s discourse-ethics theories, while correct at core, are applied incorrectly by Habermas to yield a socialistic ethic; Hoppe feels that Habermas’s theories, if correctly applied (as Hoppe himself does), yield the libertarian non-aggression norm.

Hoppe states:

Apel and Habermas are essentially silent on the all-decisive question of what ethical prescription actually follows from the recognition of the “a priori of argumentation.” However, there are remarks indicating that they both seem to believe some sort of participatory social democracy to be implied in this a priori. The following [i.e., argumentation ethics] explains why hardly anything could be farther from the truth.[36]

Although Habermas and Apel agree that argumentation implies that certain intersubjectively meaningful norms exist,[37] they would not agree with the next step taken by Hoppe. Hoppe next recognizes that argumentation, as a form of action, requires exclusive control of the scarce resources in one’s body; this implies that “as long as there is any argumentation, there is a mutual recognition of each other’s property right in his own body.”[38] As Hoppe observes, “That Habermas and Apel are unable to take this step is, I submit, due to the fact that they, too, suffer, as do many other philosophers, from a complete ignorance of economics, and a corresponding blindness towards the fact of scarcity.”[39] Presumably, just as Hoppe criticizes Gewirth’s welfare-state-justifying theory, not only because of its results but also because of its action-based method, he would also find fault in Pilon’s neo-Gewirthian theory and methods, despite Pilon’s libertarian (i.e., correct) conclusions.

III. EPISTEMOLOGY

A. The Application of Praxeology to Epistemology and Ethics

Hoppe’s epistemology is basically an extension of Ludwig von Mises’s praxeology, which Mises had previously applied only to economics.[40] Mises inquired into the logical status of typical economic propositions such as the law of marginal utility. Mises showed that both empiricism and historicism are self-contradictory doctrines and justified the claims of rationalist philosophy by demonstrating the existence of a priori synthetic propositions.[41]

In the Kantian and Misesian framework, analytic truths like “all bachelors are unmarried” are true, but circular or tautological. Synthetic truths, like “all bachelors are unfulfilled” (if that were true), say something substantial about bachelors that is not already part of the definition of bachelors. We may know a synthetic truth through experience or empirically (or a posteriori). But these truths are not necessarily true, and might have been false if experience had been different. According to empiricism, synthetic truths can be known only through experience.[42] A synthetic a priori proposition is significant because it is necessarily true yet is not a tautology, thus yielding certain unchallengeable real knowledge about the world.[43]

Mises shows that the propositions of economics are indeed knowledge that is not derived from observation and yet is constrained by objective laws. In the science of praxeology, the general theory of human action, the “axiom of action” (i.e., the proposition that humans act, that they display intentional behavior), qualifies as a priori synthetic knowledge because (a) the “axiom is not derived from observation—there are only bodily movements to be observed but no such thing as actions—but stems instead from reflective understanding”; and (b) this understanding is of a self-evident proposition, “for its truth cannot be denied, since the denial would itself have to be categorized as an action.”[44] Mises shows that all of the “categories which we know to be the very heart of economics—values, ends, means, choice, preference, cost, profit and loss—are implied in the axiom of action.”[45]

Hoppe’s achievement is to explain how praxeology also provides the foundation for epistemology and ethics (the argumentation ethichas already been discussed above). To the a priori axiom of action, Hoppe adds a second a priori axiom, the “a priori of argumentation.” This axiom:

… states that humans are capable of argumentation and hence know the meaning of truth and validity. As in the case of the action axiom, this knowledge is not derived from observation: there is only verbal behavior to be observed and prior reflective cognition is required in order to interpret such behavior as meaningful arguments. And the validity of the axiom, like that of the action axiom, is indisputable. It is impossible to deny that one can argue, as the very denial would itself be an argument.…

Recognizing, as we have just done, that knowledge claims are raised and decided upon in the course of argumentation and that this is undeniably so, one can now reconstruct the task of epistemology more precisely as that of formulating those propositions which are argumentatively indisputable in that their truth is already implied in the very fact of making one’s argument and so cannot be denied argumentatively; and to delineate the range of such a priori knowledge from the realm of propositions whose validity cannot be established in this way but require additional, contingent information for their validation, or that cannot be validated at all and so are mere metaphysical statements in the pejorative sense of the term metaphysical.[46]

B. Hoppe and Kant Versus Rand

Hoppe offers a stunning justification and interpretation of Kant’s controversial statement that “[so] far it has been assumed that our knowledge had to conform to reality,” instead it should be assumed ‘that observational reality should conform to our mind.’”[47]

According to rationalist philosophy, a priori true propositions had their foundation in the operation of principles of thinking which one could not possibly conceive of as operating otherwise; they were grounded in categories of an active mind. Now, as empiricists were only too eager to point out, the obvious critique of such a position is, that if this were indeed the case, it could not be explained why such mental categories should fit reality. Rather, one would be forced to accept the absurd idealistic assumption that reality would have to be conceived of as a creation of the mind, in order to claim that a priori knowledge could incorporate any information about the structure of reality.[48]

The empiricists’ critique seemed to be justified by statements such as that of Kant above. However, writes Hoppe:

… recognizing knowledge as being structurally constrained by its role in the framework of action categories provides the solution to such a complaint. For as soon as this is realized, all idealistic suggestions of rationalist philosophy disappear, and an epistemology claiming that a priori true propositions exist becomes a realistic epistemology instead. Understood as constrained by action categories, the seemingly unbridgeable gulf between the mental on the one hand and the real, outside physical world on the other is bridged. So constrained, a priori knowledge must be as much a mental thing as a reflection of the structure of reality, since it is only through actions that the mind comes into contact with reality, so to speak. Acting is a cognitively guided adjustment of a physical body in physical reality. And thus, there can be no doubt that a priori knowledge, conceived of as an insight into the structural constraints imposed on knowledge qua knowledge of actors, must indeed correspond to the nature of things. The realistic character of such knowledge would manifest itself not only in the fact that one could not think it to be otherwise, but in the fact that one could not undo its truth.[49]

In Hoppe’s pamphlet Praxeology and Economic Science,[50] which contains a discussion similar to the one in chapter 6 of his book, he makes it clear that he does not think that Kant himself meant that reality is created by the mind.[51] Indeed, Kant had hinted at the solution presented in Hoppe’s interpretation above. Hoppe writes, “He thought mathematics, for instance, had to be grounded in our knowledge of the meaning of repetition, of repetitive operations. And he also realized, if only somewhat vaguely, that the principle of causality is implied in our understanding of what it is and means to act.”[52]

As for the Objectivist or Randian denunciation of Kant for this statement that observational reality should conform to the mind, Hoppe states:

Among some followers of Austrianism, the Kant interpretation of Ayn Rand (see, for instance, her Introduction to Objectivist Epistemology [1979]; or For the New Intellectual [1961]) enjoys great popularity. Her interpretation, replete with sweeping denunciatory pronouncements, however, is characterized by a complete absence of any interpretive documentation whatsoever. On Rand’s arrogant ignorance regarding Kant, see B. Goldberg, “Ayn Rand’s ‘For the New Intellectual,’” New Individualist Rev., vol. 1, no. 3 (1961).[53]

 

C. A Priori Truths

Hoppe then ferrets out various truths that are implied in the very fact of arguing. The laws of logic, such as junctors (“and,” “or,” “if-then,” “not”), quantors (“there is,” “all,” “some”), and the laws of identity and contradiction:

… are a priori true propositions about reality and not mere verbal stipulations regarding the transformation rules of arbitrarily chosen signs, as empiricist-formalists would have it. They are as much laws of thinking as of reality, because they are laws that have their ultimate foundation in action and could not be undone by any actor. In each and every action, an actor identifies some specific situation and categorizes it in one way rather than another in order to be able to make a choice.[54]

Hoppe goes on to show that arithmetic is an a priori and yet empirical discipline and “is rooted in our understanding of repetition—the repetition of action.”[55] He even demonstrates the irrelevance of Gödel’s Incompleteness theorem.[56] Euclidean geometry is a priori and yet incorporates empirical knowledge about space, “because it is not only the very precondition for any empirical spatial description, it is also the precondition for any active orientation in space.”[57] Einstein’s non-Euclidean theories even presuppose the validity of Euclidean geometry: “After all, the lenses of the telescopes which one uses to confirm Einstein’s theory regarding the non-Euclidean structure of physical space must themselves be constructed according to Euclidean principles.”[58]

Hoppe also demonstrates the a prioristic character of causality and teleology. Significantly, Hoppe shows that “everything which is not an action must necessarily be categorized causally”; and, “in contrast, everything that is an action must be categorized teleogically.”[59] Also, because the causality principle is a necessary presupposition even of the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle in physics, there is a “fundamental misconception involved in interpreting the Heisenberg principle as invalidating the causality principle.”[60]

IV. ECONOMICS

A. Public Goods Theory and the Production of Security

Part One: Economics contains five interesting and insightful chapters. In chapter 1, “Fallacies of the Public Goods Theory and the Production of Security,” Hoppe shows that the distinction between “private” and “public” goods is completely illusory:

A clear-cut dichotomy between private and public goods does not exist…. All goods are more or less private or public and can—and constantly do—change with respect to their degree of privateness/publicness as people’s values and evaluations change, and as changes occur in the composition of the population. In order to recognize that they never fall, once and for all, into either one or the other category, one must only recall what makes something a good. For something to be a good it must be recognized and treated as scarce by someone. Something is not a good as such, that is to say; goods are goods only in the eyes of the beholder. Nothing is a good unless at least one person subjectively evaluates it as such. But then, when goods are never goods-as-such—when no physico-chemical analysis can identify something as an economic good—there is clearly no fixed, objective criterion for classifying goods as either private or public. They can never be private or public goods as such. Their private or public character depends on how few or how many people consider them to be goods, with the degree to which they are private or public changing as these evaluations change and ranging from one to infinity.[61]

Hoppe then applies this analysis to the production of security, commonly held to be a public good. Because the production of security is no more a “public good” than goods and services such as cheese, houses, or insurance, there is no special economic reason that prevents markets from producing security, and thus no justification to require remedial state action, such as state monopolization of police and defense.

B. The Economics and Sociology of Taxation

In chapter 2, “The Economics and Sociology of Taxation,” Hoppe argues that only three ways exist of acquiring or increasing wealth: through homesteading, producing, or contracting. Since taxation implies a reduction of income a person can expect to receive from these three activities, the opportunity cost for using one’s time and body to perform these activities is raised by taxation. Thus the marginal utility of producing wealth is decreased, and the marginal utility of consumption and leisure is increased, leading to a shift away from the production of wealth and towards consumption and leisure. Therefore taxation is a means for the destruction of property and wealth-formation.[62]

To the objection that taxation makes people actually work harder in order to earn the same income as before taxation, Hoppe replies that even if increased taxation causes:

… [an] increase in workaholism, it is still the case that the income of value-productive individuals has fallen. For even if they produce the same output as previously, they can only do so if they expend more labor now than before. And since any additional labor expenditure implies foregone leisure or consumption (leisure or consumption which they otherwise could have enjoyed along with the same output of valuable assets), their overall standard of living must be lower now.[63]

Hoppe also explains “why the assumption that taxation can possibly leave the productive output of valuable assets unaffected and exclusively cripple consumption is fatally flawed.”[64] This is because time preference—people’s preference of present goods over future goods—combines with the increased marginal utility of leisure and consumption and the decreased marginal utility of production. Because people have an increased preference for consumption (in the present), and a relatively decreased preference for production (in the future), the length of the structure of production is shortened, and thus fewer valuable future assets are produced. “Every act of taxation necessarily exerts a push away from more highly capitalized, and hence more productive production processes, and into the direction of a hand-to-mouth existence.”[65]

After showing that taxes reduce the standard of living of consumers, Hoppe discusses the sociological reasons for taxation, and ever more of it. This discussion is fascinating and insightful, but it comes down to the fact that there is taxation because the government can get away with it; the government can get away with it because a majority of the population either actively or passively support such governmental policies; and the majority support government because of the lack of (complete, principled) acceptance of a private property ethic.[66]

Government propaganda plays a role in influencing public opinion. Hoppe asks how the government could change public opinion from true ideas (i.e., the historical support in the United States for freedom and private property) to wrong ideas. He points out:

It would seem that such a change towards falsehood requires the systematic introduction of exogenous forces: A true ideology is capable of supporting itself merely by virtue of being true. A false one needs reinforcement by outside influences with a clear-cut, tangible impact on people in order to be capable of generating and supporting a climate of intellectual corruption.[67]

(Objectivists who would criticize Hoppe because many of his ideas were influenced by Kant should note Hoppe’s radical lack of epistemological and moral skepticism evident in this statement.)

Thus the government effectively buys support from the populace through a system of transfer payments, grants of privilege, and governmental provision of certain goods, e.g., education, which makes the populace increasingly dependent on the continuation of state rule.[68] By adopting democracy, the state “opens every government position to everyone and grants equal and universal rights of participation and competition in the making of state-policy.”[69] Thus people gradually lose sight of the immorality of the exploitation and expropriation in which they participate, and are lured “into accepting the view that such acts are legitimate as long as one is guaranteed a say over them….”[70]

[W]hen everyone is potentially a minister, no one is concerned to cut down an office to which he aspires one day himself, or to put sand in a machine which he means to use himself when his turn comes. Hence it is that there is in the political circles of a modern society a wide complicity in the extension of power.[71]

Hoppe concludes that everything depends on a change in public opinion. Although this may appear hopeless, “ideas have changed in the past and can change again in the future … and the idea of private property has certainly one attraction: it, and only it, is a true reflection of man’s nature as a rational being.”[72]

C. Banking, Nation States, and International Politics

Chapter 3, “Banking, Nation States, and International Politics: A Sociological Reconstruction of the Present Economic Order,” is the best and most important chapter in Part One. Here Hoppe explores how and why the state monopolizes money and banking and shows the danger of the ever-approaching international monetary order.[73] Similarly to the discussion in chapter 2, this chapter argues that the state arises despite its inefficiencies and immorality and therefore depends upon public support, either active or passive. To create legitimacy in the minds of the public, the state engages in propaganda:

Much time and effort is spent persuading the public that things are not really as they appear: Exploitation is really freedom; taxes are really voluntary … no one is ruled by anyone but we all rule ourselves; … etc.[74]

Additionally, to garner public support, the state also engages in redistribution: it takes individuals’ wealth, which individuals tend to resist, but redistributes some of it to individuals in order to corrupt them into assuming state-supportive roles. Because the state rests upon coercion, it must of course monopolize the police, defense, and courts.[75] In order to be able to regularly exploit the population, the state must also control traffic and communications, so it monopolizes these also. The state monopolizes the field of education to eliminate ideological competition. The state also adopts a democratic system that opens up potential government jobs and votes to all, giving the people a legal stake in the state in order to reduce resistance to state power.[76]

But “[t]he monopolization of money and banking is the ultimate pillar on which the modern state rests.”[77] Thus the state monopolizes the minting of gold (to shift psychologically the emphasis from gold in universal terms like ounces to terms of fiat labels like “dollars”); passes legal tender laws; monopolizes the banking system; nationalizes gold; and finally cuts the last tie to gold by declaring paper notes irredeemable in gold.

But because there is still competition among states, which limits governments’ abilities to inflate their currencies, governments have an incentive to expand their territories and to expand the territory in which each government’s currency is in place. Historically, the tendency has been towards a one-world government, with a one-world paper currency, with the United States at the helm, and with no remaining limit on inflation of the money supply except hyperinflation and a collapse of the economy. This tendency is likely to continue unless public opinion:

… the only constraint on government growth[,] undergoes a substantial change and the public begins to understand the lessons explained in this [chapter]: that economic rationality as well as justice and morality demand a worldwide gold standard and free, 100% reserve banking as well as free markets worldwide; and that world government, a world central bank and a world paper currency—contrary to the deceptive impression of representing universal values—actually means the universalization and intensification of exploitation, counterfeiting-fraud, and economic destruction.[78]

D. Marxism Reformed by Praxeology

Chapter 4, “Marxist and Austrian Class Analysis,” is an interesting chapter that reinterprets the Marxist theory of history from an Austrian economics perspective. Hoppe argues that the hard-core tenets of the Marxist theory of history are essentially correct, but are derived in Marxism from a false starting point; and that the Mises-Rothbard brand of Austrianism can give a different justification for the validity of these theses.

The five hard-core Marxist beliefs are: (1) The history of mankind is the history of class struggles; (2) the ruling class is unified by its common interest in upholding its exploitative position and maximizing its exploitatively appropriated surplus product; (3) class rule manifests itself primarily in specific arrangements regarding the relations of production (i.e., the assignment of property rights); (4) internally, the process of competition within the ruling class generates a tendency toward increasing concentration and centralization; and (5) finally, with the centralization and expansion of exploitative rule gradually approaching its ultimate limit of world domination, class rule will increasingly become incompatible with the further development and improvement of “productive forces.”[79]

Hoppe points out that Marx’s theory of exploitation is flawed because, in maintaining that there is exploitation when a capitalist retains a surplus profit after paying a laborer, his theory does not take into account nor “understand the phenomenon of time preferencesas a universal category of human action.”[80] Of course, once time preference is considered, it can be seen that “contrary to the case of slave and slave master where the latter benefits at the expense of the former, the relationship between the free laborer and the capitalist is a mutually beneficial one.”[81] It is logically absurd to regard homesteading of unowned goods, or voluntary agreements between different homesteaders, as exploitative, because nothing is taken away from anybody by these activities, and goods are actually created. “Instead, exploitation takes place whenever any deviation from the homesteading principle occurs…. Exploitation is the expropriation of homesteaders, producers and savers by late-coming non-homesteaders, non-producers, non-savers
and non-contractors….”[82] Given this theory of exploitation, Hoppe analyzes the nature of government to justify the five Marxist theses above.

E. Mises Versus Keynes

The final chapter in Part One, “Theory of Employment, Money, Interest, and the Capitalist Process: The Misesian Case Against Keynes,” contains an illuminating discussion of the Austrian theories of employment, money, and interest. After this discussion, Hoppe states that it is now “easy to recognize Keynes’s ‘new’ General Theory of Employment, Interest, and Money as fundamentally flawed and the Keynesian revolution as one of this century’s foremost intellectual scandals.”[83] Hoppe then proceeds to eviscerate Keynes’s theories against this backdrop.

V. CONCLUSION

Like A Theory of Socialism and Capitalism before it, The Economics and Ethics of Private Property contains cutting-edge economic theories and breakthroughs in epistemology and individual rights theories. Hoppe is indeed correct that, in the long run, immoral government policies depend upon the tacit support of the majority of the population. The only way to win more recognition and enforcement of our individual rights is to educate the populace of the truth and wisdom of freedom. The publication of works like Hoppe’s, with an uncompromising, hard-core (and, more importantly, correct) defense of liberty, certainly advances this cause.

 

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[1] See “The Ethical Justification of Capitalism and Why Socialism Is Morally Indefensible,” chap. 7 in Hans-Hermann Hoppe, A Theory of Socialism and Capitalism: Economics, Politics, and Ethics (Auburn, Ala.: Mises Institute, 2010 [1989]; www.hanshoppe.com/tsc). Argumentation ethics is discussed in “Dialogical Arguments for Libertarian Rights” (ch. 6) and “Defending Argumentation Ethics” (ch. 7).

[2] Hoppe’s article, “The Ultimate Justification of the Private Property Ethic,” Liberty 2, no. 1 (Sept. 1988; https://perma.cc/6TYM-BJRZ): 20–22 (included as chap. 13 of EEPP), was the subject of the symposium, “Breakthrough or Buncombe,” Liberty 2, no. 2 (Nov. 1988; https://perma.cc/A5UU-P64A): 44–53, containing discussion of Hoppe’s argumentation ethics by several libertarian theorists, many critical, and Hoppe’s reply, “Utilitarians and Randians vs Reason” (53–54). This reply is included in “Appendix: Four Critical Replies” in EEPP; see also subsequent response to critics in idem, “PFP163 | Hans Hermann Hoppe, ‘On The Ethics of Argumentation’ (PFS 2016),” The Property and Freedom Podcast, ep. 163 (June 30, 2022).

In addition to the response to the Liberty symposium, “Appendix: Four Critical Replies” also includes responses to David Osterfeld, Loren Lomasky, and David Conway in other publications. See David Osterfeld, “Comment on Hoppe,” Austrian Economics Newsletter 9, no. 3 (Spring/Summer 1988; https://perma.cc/4229-ZR7P): 9–10 (also including Hoppe’s reply, “Demonstrated Preference and Private Property: Reply to Professor Osterfeld,” pp. 10–12, and Sheldon Richman, “Comment on Osterfeld,” p. 10). David Conway’s review of Hoppe, A Theory of Socialism and Capitalism (pp. 11–14) and Hoppe’s response, “On the Indefensibility of Welfare Rights: A Comment on Conway” (pp. 14–16), appeared in Austrian Economics Newsletter 11, no. 1 (Winter/Spring 1990; https://perma.cc/X2PR-H8BW). Loren Lomasky’s criticism was “The Argument from Mere Argument,” Liberty 3, no. 1 (Sept. 1989; https://perma.cc/38XS-ZDEL): 55–57. Hoppe’s reply to Lomasky was “Intimidation by Argument—Once Again,” Liberty 3, no. 2 (Nov. 1989; https://perma.cc/4382-RKSQ): 37–39, republished as “Intimidation by Argument,” section III in “Appendix: Four Critical Replies.” Rothbard’s humorous response to Lomasky was “Hoppephobia,” originally published in Liberty 3, no. 4 (March 1990; https://perma.cc/JT7K-YTUJ): 11–12, reprinted at LewRockwell.com (Oct. 4, 2014; https://perma.cc/5HH6-2P78. See also the discussion re Lomasky and others in “Defending Argumentation Ethics” (ch. 7), at n.4 et pass., including excerpts from Hoppe’s and Rothbard’s responses to Lomasky’s critique.

For more on argumentation ethics, see Kinsella, “Argumentation Ethics and Liberty: A Concise Guide,” StephanKinsella.com (May 27, 2011); idem, “Hoppe’s Argumentation Ethics and Its Critics,” StephanKinsella.com (Aug. 11, 2015).

Regarding Yeager—in my view, he is wrong about several topics. First, he is wrong about Hoppe’s argumentation ethics; see also “Defending Argumentation Ethics” (ch. 7), n.5. Also, he is wrong about self-ownership; see “How We Come to Own Ourselves” (ch. 4), n.1. And he is wrong about knowledge and the calculation problem. On this latter issue, see “Legislation and the Discovery of Law in a Free Society” (ch. 13), at n.66, and references in Kinsella, “The Great Mises-Hayek Dehomogenization/Economic Calculation Debate,” StephanKinsella.com (Feb. 8, 2016), including Leland B. Yeager, “Mises and Hayek and Calculation and Knowledge,” Rev. Austrian Econ. 7, no. 2 (1994; https://mises.org/library/mises-and-hayek-and-calculation-and-knowledge): 93–109; Joseph Salerno, “Reply to Leland B. Yeager on Mises and Hayek on Calculation and Knowledge,” Rev. Austrian Econ. 7, no. 2 (1994; https://mises.org/library/reply-leland-b-yeager-mises-and-hayek-calculation-and-knowledge): 111–25, and Yeager, “Calculation and Knowledge: Let’s Write Finis,” Rev. Austrian Econ. 10, no. 1 (1997; https://mises.org/library/calculation-and-knowledge-lets-write-finis): 133–36.

[3] Rothbard, “Beyond Is and Ought,” p. 44.

[4] EEPP, pp. 314–15

[5] Ibid., p. 315.

[6] Ibid., p. 316. On universalizability, see Kinsella, “The problem of particularistic ethicsor, why everyone really has to admit the validity of the universalizability principle,” StephanKinsella.com (Nov. 10, 2011); “What Libertarianism Is” (ch. 2), at n.23; “How We Come to Own Ourselves” (ch. 4), n.15; “A Libertarian Theory of Punishment and Rights” (ch. 5), Part III.D.1; “Dialogical Arguments for Libertarian Rights” (ch. 6), at n.43; and “Defending Argumentation Ethics” (ch. 7), the section “Universalizability.”

[7] Ibid., pp. 316 & 317 (emphasis added).

[8] Ibid., p. 317.

[9] Ibid.

[10] Ibid., pp. 319–22. Hoppe makes it clear that, although he agrees with Locke’s theory of homesteading by mixing one’s labor with resources, he believes the Lockean proviso—Locke’s limitation that the right to homestead extends only when “enough and as good” is left for others—is false and must be rejected (contra Lomasky). Ibid., p. 410.

[11] For further elaboration of these issues, see “What Libertarianism Is” (ch. 2) and “How We Come to Own Ourselves” (ch. 4).

[12] For subsequent discussion of argumentation ethics since the publication of the original article in 1994, see Kinsella, “Argumentation Ethics and Liberty: A Concise Guide” and idem, “Hoppe’s Argumentation Ethics and Its Critics.”

[13] Kinsella, “Estoppel: A New Justification for Individual Rights,” Reason Papers No. 17 (Fall 1992): 61–74. See note 15, below.

[14] Rothbard has developed a useful classification or typology of aggressive intervention. If an aggressor’s command or order involves only the commanded individual himself—i.e., the aggressor restricts the individual’s use of his own property, when exchange with someone else is not involved—this Rothbard calls autistic intervention. If the aggressor compels an exchange between the individual and himself, or coerces a “gift” from the individual subject, this may be called a binary intervention, since a hegemonic relation is established between two people: the aggressor and the individual subject. If the aggressor compels or prohibits an exchange between a pair of subjects, this is called triangular intervention.

Examples of autistic intervention are murder or compulsory prohibition or enforcement of a salute or speech. Taxation, conscription, slavery, and compulsory jury service are examples of binary intervention. Examples of triangular intervention are price controls, minimum wage laws, and licensing. Murray N. Rothbard, Man, Economy, and State, with Power and Market, Scholars ed., 2d ed. (Auburn, Ala.: Mises Institute, 2009; https://mises.org/library/man-economy-and-state-power-and-market), chap. 12, §2. In chapter 3, “Banking, Nation States and International Politics: A Sociological Reconstruction of the Present Economic Order,” Hoppe makes similar distinctions among aggressive actions in pointing out why states with relatively more liberal internal economic policies are more successful in war against states with relatively less internal liberalization:

The need for a productive economy that a warring state must have also explains why it is that ceteris paribus those states which have adjusted their internal redistributive policies so as to decrease the importance of economic regulations relative to that of taxation tend to outstrip their competitors in the arena of international politics. Regulations through which states either compel or prohibit certain exchanges between two or more private persons as well as taxation imply a non-productive and/or non-contractual income expropriation and thus both damage homesteaders, producers or contractors i.e., those that cause wealth to come into existence. However, while by no means less destructive of productive output than taxation, regulations have the peculiar characteristic of requiring the state’s control over economic resources in order to become enforceable without simultaneously increasing the resources at its disposal. In practice, this is to say that they require the state’s command over taxes, yet they produce no monetary income for the state (instead, they satisfy pure power lust, as when A, for no material gain of his own, prohibits B and C from engaging in mutually beneficial trade). On the other hand, taxation and a redistribution of tax revenue according to the principle “from Peter to Paul,” increases the economic means at the government’s disposal at least by its own “handling charge” for the act of redistribution. Since a policy of taxation, and taxation without regulation, yields a higher monetary return to the state (and with this more resources expendable on the war effort!) than a policy of regulation, and regulation with taxation, states must move in the direction of a comparatively deregulated economy and a comparatively pure tax-state in order to avoid international defeat…. A highly characteristic example of this connection between a policy of internal deregulation and increased external aggressiveness is provided by the Reagan administration.

EEPP, p. 102–103 & n.22.

[15] Kinsella, “Estoppel: A New Justification for Individual Rights.” An expanded discussion of the estoppel theory will be presented in my work-in-progress, Estoppel: A Theory of Rights. (Author’s note: This previous comment was included in the original 1994 article. Subsequently, I elaborated on this theory, albeit under different titles than previously envisioned. See “A Libertarian Theory of Punishment and Rights” (ch. 5) and “Dialogical Arguments for Libertarian Rights” (ch. 6).)

[16] Murray N. Rothbard, “Beyond Is and Ought,” Liberty 2, no. 2 (Nov. 1988; https://perma.cc/8LZR-DN6Y; also https://mises.org/library/beyond-and-ought): 44–45.

[17] Although Hoppe demonstrates the a priori character of several concepts, he neither systematically nor exhaustively catalogues them. See Part IV, below, for a discussion of Hoppe’s a priori concepts.

[18] EEPP, p. 301. For an interesting discussion of neuropsychologist Roger W. Sperry’s writing on the subject of free will, determinism, and causality, see Charles Ripley, “Sperry’s Concept of Consciousness,” Inquiry 27 (1990): 399–423; see also Leonard Peikoff, Objectivism: The Philosophy of Ayn Rand (1991), pp. 69–72 (discussing Ayn Rand’s theory of volition and its relation to causality); and David Kelley, “The Nature of Free Will,” The Foundations of Knowledge, Lecture 6 (Portland Institute Conference, 1986; YouTube; https://youtu.be/m8qeaxNl7jE).

[19] EEPP, p. 341.

[20] Ibid., pp. 333–34.

[21] Ibid., p. 313 (Alan Gewirth, “Law, Action, and Morality,” in Georgetown Symposium on Ethics: Essays in Honor of Henry B. Veatch, R. Porreco, ed. (New York: University Press of America, 1984), p. 73)). See also the related discussion in “Dialogical Arguments for Libertarian Rights” (ch. 6), the section “Argumentation Ethics and Natural Rights.”

[22] Ibid.

[23] Ibid., pp. 314 n.15, 315 n.17.

[24] Ibid., pp. 321–22, quoting Murray N. Rothbard, “A Crusoe Social Philosophy,” in The Ethics of Liberty (New York: New York University Press, 1998), pp. 32–33, also published as idem, “A Crusoe Social Philosophy,” Mises Daily (December 7, 2021; https://mises.org/library/crusoe-social-philosophy). Ayn Rand’s thought related to this subject is worth noting:

[A]s Rand maintains, all “oughts” are hypothetical, based on valuing one’s life….

The point is not that one has to be alive in order to act to achieve anything. The point is that being pro-life is what makes end states qualify as values. Only choosing to hold one’s life as a value gives one the stake in one’s actions that is required for the whole issue of evaluation to arise….

Contrary to biological determinism, one does not have to pursue any goals or proclaim anything to be of value. But contrary to subjectivism, if one does, the action or proclamation logically depends on implicitly accepting one’s life as one’s ultimate value….

The issue of justifying choices arises only in the context of having already chosen to live. The choice to live is not extra-moral, but pre-moral; it is a precondition of all moral evaluation.

Harry Binswanger, “Life-Based Teleology and the Foundations of Ethics,” The Monist 75, no. 1 (Jan. 1992): 84–103, at 99–100. As Ayn Rand states:

Life or death is man’s only fundamental alternative. To live is his basic act of choice. If he chooses to live, a rational ethics will tell him what principles of action are required to implement his choice. If he does not choose to live, nature will take its course.

Ibid., at 100 (quoting Ayn Rand, “Causality Versus Duty,” in Philosophy: Who Needs It (Signet 1984), pp. 95, 99. For further discussion of the structure of this Rothbard’s argument for rights here, see David Osterfeld, “Natural Rights Debate: A Comment on a Reply,” J. Libertarian Stud. 7, no. 1 (Spring 1983; https://mises.org/library/natural-rights-debate-comment-reply-0): 101–13, pp. 106–07.

[25] EEPP, p. 345.

[26] This is in marked contrast to Hoppe’s normal habit of clearly defining key terms. For example, Hoppe has brilliantly demonstrated that socialism “must be conceptualized as an institutionalized interference with or aggression against private property and private property claims.” Hoppe, A Theory of Socialism and Capitalism, p. 10.

[27] EEPP, p. 320.

[28] Lomasky makes a similar critique in “The Argument from Mere Argument.”

[29] EEPP, p. 314 n.16. Jürgen Habermas’s works, often in German, are cited frequently throughout the book. Habermas’s work on “communicative action” is crucial in Hoppe’s own argumentation ethics. See also discussion in “Dialogical Arguments for Libertarian Rights” (ch. 6), n.25 et pass. Habermas’s writings published in English, or English-language discussions of Habermas’s works, include: Seyla Benhabib & Fred Dallmayr, eds., The Communicative Ethics Controversy (Cambridge, Mass.: MIT Press, 1990); Douglas B. Rasmussen, “Political Legitimacy and Discourse Ethics,” International Philosophical Quarterly 32 (1992; https://perma.cc/MK59-QEVV); Jeremy Shearmur, “Habermas: A Critical Approach,” Critical Rev. 2 (1988): 39–50; Kenneth Baynes, The Normative Grounds of Social Criticism: Kant, Rawls, and Habermas (Albany: State University of New York Press, 1992), pp. 77–122; Jane Braaten, Habermas’s Critical Theory of Society (1991); Jürgen Habermas, Moral Consciousness and Communicative Action, Christian Lenhardt & Shierry Weber Nicholsen,trans.(Cambridge, Mass.: MIT Press, 1990 [1983]) (containing English translation of work originally published in German as “Moralbewusstsein und communikatives Handeln”);idem, Between Facts and Norms: Contributions to a Discourse Theory of Law and Democracy, William Rehg, trans. (Cambridge, Mass.: MIT Press, 1996; https://perma.cc/27K9-YWW2); idem, Communication and the Evolution of Society, Thomas McCarthy, trans. (Boston: Beacon Press, 1979); idem, Knowledge and Human Interests, Jeremy Shapiro, trans. (Boston: Beacon Press, 1972); idem, Legitimation Crisis, Thomas McCarthy, trans. (Boston: Beacon Press, 1975); idem, The Philosophical Discourse of Modernity : Twelve Lectures, Fredrick Lawrence, trans. (Cambridge, Mass.: MIT Press, 1987); idem, Theory and Practice, John Viertel,trans. (Boston: Beacon Press, 1973); idem, The Theory of Communicative Action, Thomas McCarthy, trans. (Boston: Beacon Press, 1984 & 1987) (two volumes); Thomas McCarthy, The Critical Theory of Jürgen Habermas (Cambridge, Mass.: MIT Press, 1981); idem, Ideals and Illusions: On Reconstruction and Deconstruction in Contemporary Critical Theory (Cambridge, Mass.: MIT Press, 1993); John B. Thompson & David Held, eds., Habermas: Critical Debates (London: Macmillan Press, 1982); Michael Pusey, Jürgen Habermas (London and New York: Routledge, 1987); Richard J. Bernstein, ed., Habermas and Modernity (Cambridge, Mass.: MIT Press, 1985); Jürgen Habermas, Jürgen Habermas on Society and Politics: A Reader, Steven Seidman, ed. (Boston: Beacon Press, 1989); David M. Rasmussen, ed., Reading Habermas (Wiley-Blackwell, 1991); Stephen K. White, The Recent Work of Jürgen Habermas (Cambridge University Press, 1988); Gary C. Leedes, “The Discourse Ethics Alternative to Rust v. Sullivan,” U. Rich. L. Rev. 26 (1991; https://scholarship.richmond.edu/lawreview/vol26/iss1/4/): 87–143, at 108-11; Lawrence B. Solum, “Freedom of Communicative Action: A Theory of the First Amendment Freedom of Speech,” Northwestern U. L. Rev. 83 (1989; https://scholarship.law.georgetown.edu/facpub/1954/): 54–135, at 86–106.

See also Karl-Otto Apel, “Is the Ethics of the Ideal Communication Community a Utopia? On the Relationship between Ethics, Utopia, and the Critique of Utopia,”in Benhabib & Dallmayr, eds., The Communicative Ethics Controversy; idem, “The A Prioriof the Communication Community and the Foundations of Ethics,” in Towards a Transformation of Philosophy (London and New York: Routledge, 1980); idem, “The Problem of Philosophical Foundations Grounding in Light of a Transcendental Pragmatics of Language,” in Kenneth Baynes, James Bohman & Thomas McCarthy, eds., After Philosophy: End or Transformation? (Cambridges, Mass.: MIT Press, 1986); Kim Davies, “Review of K-O Apel, Towards a Transformation of Philosophy (1980),” Radical Philosophy 30 (Spring 1982; https://www.stephankinsella.com/wp-content/uploads/texts/davies_apel-review.pdf); Michel Rosenfeld, “Book Review of Habermas, Between Facts and Norms: Contributions to a Discourse Theory of Law and Democracy,” Harv. L. Rev. 108 (1995): 1163–89.

[30] EEPP, p. 315 n.18. Gewirth’s theory is presented in his book Reason and Morality (Chicago: University of Chicago Press, 1978). For a concise statement of Gewirth’s theories, see his article “The Basis and Content of Human Rights,” Georgia L. Rev. 13 (1979): 1143–70; also idem, Moral Rationality (The Lindley Lecture, Univ. of Kansas, 1972; https://core.ac.uk/download/pdf/213402925.pdf); idem, “Law, Action, and Morality,” p. 73.

See also the discussion of Gewirth and his libertarian student Roger Pilon in “Dialogical Arguments for Libertarian Rights” (ch. 6).

[31] Gewirth, “The Basis and Content of Human Rights,” p. 1155.

[32] Ibid., at 1149, 1167-69.

[33] EEPP, p. 315 n.18.

[34] Roger A. Pilon, “Ordering Rights Consistently: Or What We Do and Do Not Have Rights To,” Georgia L. Rev. 13 (1979; https://perma.cc/FYX4-CFNH): 1171–96, pp. 1178, 1187; see also idem, A Theory of Rights: Toward Limited Government (Ph.D. dissertation, University of Chicago, 1979; https://perma.cc/DGS3-W4UA).

[35] Ibid at 1186–87.

[36] EEPP, p. 335 n.2.

[37] Ibid., p. 334.

[38] Ibid., p. 335.

[39] Ibid.

[40] Ibid., p. 278 et seq.

[41] Ibid., p. 271 et seq.

[42] Roger Scruton, Kant (Oxford University Press, 1982), pp. 18–19.

[43] David Gordon, The Philosophical Origins of Austrian Economics (Auburn, Ala.: Mises Institute, 1993; https://perma.cc/AQ6N-VS4H), pp. 30–31.

[44] EEPP, pp. 275–76.

[45] Ibid., p. 277.

[46] Ibid., p. 280.

[47] Ibid., p. 282, quoting Immanuel Kant, Kritik der Reinen Vernunft [Critique of Pure Reason], in vol. 3 Werke, Wilhelm Weischedel, ed. (Frankfurt/M.: Suhrkamp,  1968), p. 45.

[48] EEPP, p. 282.

[49] Ibid., pp. 282–83.

[50] Hans-Hermann Hoppe, Praxeology and Economic Science (1988), later included in idem, Economic Science and the Austrian Method (Auburn, Ala.: Mises Institute, 1995; www.hanshoppe.com/esam).

[51] Ibid., pp. 17–18.

[52] Ibid., p. 18.

[53] Ibid., at 45 n.14. Goldberg’s article, however, is poorly reasoned and largely unconvincing. See David Kelley, The Evidence of the Senses: A Realist Theory of Perception (1986), p. 27–31 (discussing the primacy of existence); Leonard Peikoff, Objectivism: The Philosopy of Ayn Rand (New York: Dutton, 1991), pp. 148–52 (discussing Ayn Rand and philosophy of objectivity). The notorious phrase of Kant’s can be found in English in Immanuel Kant, Critique of Pure Reason (Norman K. Smith trans. 1953 [1929]), pp. 21–22. As David Kelley, executive director of the Institute for Objectivist Studies, paraphrases Kant:

Hitherto it has been supposed,” Kant says in his major work, “that all our knowledge must conform to the objects,” but, he argues, … under that supposition, every effort to establish the validity of consciousness has failed. So, “the experiment therefore ought to be made, whether we should not succeed better with the problems of metaphysics by assuming that the objects must conform to our mode of cognition.

Kelley perceptively criticizes Kant here with an analogy, that of Kant’s thought applied to the driving of a car:

Hitherto it has been supposed that our steering must conform to the road. But on this supposition it has proved impossible to establish the validity of our steering. The experiment therefore ought to be made, whether we should not have more success with the problem of driving by assuming that the road must conform to our steering.

David Kelley, “The Primacy of Existence,” The Foundations of Knowledge, Lecture 1 (The Jefferson School Conference, San Diego; YouTube, 1985; https://youtu.be/AVBgfamJxFk).

Author’s note (2023): As Hoppe has observed, Kant’s meaning is ambiguous or murky enough because of his wording to cause some, such as Kelley, and other, primarily American, philosophers, to interpret Kant in this idealistic way, while others, primarily on the continent, have interpreted him in a more realistic way. See EEPP, p. 282 and 282 n.17, citing, as examples of the latter, Friedrich Kambartel, Erfahrung and Struktur (Frankfurt/M.: Suhrkamp, 1968), chap. 3 as well as Hoppe’s own Handeln und Erkennen: Zur Kritik des Empirismus am Beispiel der Philosophie David Humes (Bern: Lang, 1976; www.hanshoppe.com/german). Some other books suggested to me in this regard, which I have not yet read (and I don’t know German), include: Ralph C.S. Walker, Kant (London: Routledge and Kegan Paul, 1978) (suggested by Barry Smith); Paul Abela, Kant’s Empirical Realism (Oxford: Clarendon Press, 2002) and J.N. Findlay, Kant and the Transcendental Object: A Hermeneutic Study (Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1981) (suggested by David Gordon); Paul Lorenzen, Methodisches Denken (Frankfurt/M.: Suhrkamp, 1968) and idem, Normative Logic and Ethics (Mannheim: Bibliographisches Institut, 1969) (suggested by Hoppe); Magdalena Aebi, Kants Begründung der “Deutschen Philosophie”: Kants Transzendentale Logik, Kritik Ihrer Begründung (Basel: Verlag für Recht und Gesellschaft, 1947) (suggested by Kevin Mulligan).

But as Hoppe points out, “Whether or not such an interpretation of Kant’s epistemology is indeed correct is a very different matter. Clarifying this problem is of no concern here, however.” EEPP, p. 282 n.17. In any case, Kantians such as Mises, Kantian-Misesians such as Hoppe, and Aristotelean-Misesians such as Rothbard are in fact epistemological realists and not idealists as some philosophers construe Kant to be. To the contrary, the Misesian praxeological perspective helps to ground a realist epistemology. As Hoppe notes,

Recognizing knowledge as being structurally constrained by its role in the framework of action categories provides the solution to such a complaint, for as soon as this is realized, all idealistic suggestions of rationalist philosophy disappear, and an epistemology claiming that a priori true propositions exist becomes a realistic epistemology instead. Understood as constrained by action categories, the seemingly unbridgeable gulf between the mental on the one hand and the real, outside physical world on the other is bridged.

Ibid., pp. 282–83. For more on Hoppe’s realistic, Misesian-based epistemology, see his Economic Science and the Austrian Method, pp. 68–70. On Rothbard’s, see his “The Mantle of Science,” “In Defense of ‘Extreme Apriorism,’” and other chapters in Section One: Method, of Economic Controversies (Auburn, Ala.: Mises Institute, 2011; https://mises.org/library/economic-controversies). On Mises’s realism, see Ludwig von Mises, “Epistemological Studies,” in Memoirs, Arlene Oost-Zinner, trans. (Auburn, Ala.: Mises Institute, 2009; https://mises.org/library/book/memoirs) (formerly Notes and Recollections); Mises’s dismissive remarks on Popper in The Ultimate Foundation of Economic Science: An Essay on Method (Princeton, N.J.: D. Van Nostrand Company, Inc., 1962; https://mises.org/library/ultimate-foundation-economic-science), chap. 4, §8 and chap. 7, §4; idem, Theory and History: An Interpretation of Social and Economic Evolution (Auburn, Ala.: Mises Institute, 2007 [1957]; https://mises.org/library/theory-and-history-interpretation-social-and-economic-evolution), chap. 1, §3. See also Edward W. Younkins, “Menger, Mises, Rand, and Beyond,” J. Ayn Rand Stud. 6, no. 2 (Spring 2005; https://perma.cc/SM4J-TYBV): 337–74, p. 342 et pass. (also in Edward W. Younkins, ed., Philosophers of Capitalism: Menger, Mises, Rand, and Beyond (Lexington Books, 2005)), and Heidi C. Morris, “Reason and Reality: The Logical Compatibility of Austrian Economics and Objectivism,” Rebirth of Reason (May 10, 2005; https://perma.cc/PSR5-MNFE).

[54] EEPP, p. 284.

[55] Ibid., p. 286.

[56] Ibid., p. 286 n.20.

[57] Ibid., pp. 288.

[58] Ibid, p. 288 n.23; see Petr Beckmann, Einstein Plus Two (Golem Press, 1987), p. 27 et pass. (proposing theory implying that Einstein’s work does not prove physical space is non-Euclidean). In the journal founded by Dr. Beckmann, who passed away in 1993, a recent article purports to have found evidence disproving part of Einstein’s theory, thereby confirming Beckmann and Hoppe. Howard C. Hayden, “Stellar Aberration,” Galilean Electrodynamics [https://perma.cc/JUY8-W7WS] vol. 4, no. 5 (Sept./Oct. 1993; https://perma.cc/GQY6-KUVK): 89–92. In this article, Hayden, a professor of physics at the University of Connecticut, claims that evidence shows that the phenomenon of stellar aberration is not due to the relative velocity of a star with respect to Earth, as is claimed by Einstein’s theory of relativity. Ibid., at 91–92. The evidence thus casts doubt on the validity of Einsteinian relativity. Galilean Electrodynamics is now edited by Howard C. Hayden. (Author’s note (2023): this original comment was written in 1994.)

[59] Ibid., pp. 291–92.

[60] Ibid., p. 290 n.25.

[61] Ibid., pp. 8–9.

[62] Ibid., p. 35.

[63] Ibid., p. 39.

[64] Ibid.

[65] Ibid., p. 42.

[66] In this book I often use “government” more or less synonymously with “the state,” although it is probably preferable to use the term state, when possible, as it is conceptually distinct from “government,” as one can imagine “governing institutions” of law and order in a private-law society. In fact many statists and mini-statists (minarchists) often engage in equivocation on this point; they presuppose that there cannot be law and order, or “government,” without the state, but if the anarchist claims to favor law and order, then the statist equates government with state and accuses the anarchist of being inconsistent. This is really simply disingenuous question-begging hidden behind an equivocation.

[67] Ibid., p. 65.

[68] Hoppe discusses some of these themes also in Democracy: The God That Failed (Transaction, 2001; www.hanshoppe.com/democracy).

[69] Ibid., p. 67. This calls to mind the words of Lysander Spooner, writing in 1870. Note especially Spooner’s point 2:

The ostensible supporters of the Constitution … are made up of three classes, viz.: 1. Knaves, a numerous and active class, who see in the government an instrument which they can use for their own aggrandizement or wealth. 2. Dupes—a large class, no doubt—each of whom, because he is allowed one voice out of millions in deciding what he may do with his own person and his own property, and because he is permitted to have the same voice in robbing, enslaving, and murdering others, that others have in robbing, enslaving, and murdering himself, is stupid enough to imagine that he is a “free man,” a “sovereign”; that this is a “free government”; “a government of equal rights,” “the best government on earth,” and such like absurdities. 3. A class who have some appreciation of the evils of government, but either do not see how to get rid of them, or do not choose to so far sacrifice their private interests as to give themselves seriously and earnestly to the work of making a change.

Lysander Spooner, “No Treason No. 4: The Constitution of No Authority,” in The Lysander Spooner Reader (San Francisco, Calif.: Fox and Wilkes, 1992; http://www.lysanderspooner.org/works). Spooner (1808–1887), an anarchist, was a Massachusetts lawyer noted for his vigorous opposition to the encroachment of the state upon the liberty of the individual, such as the institution of slavery. In No Treason, Spooner demolishes the “consent” theory of the validity of the Constitution. Unfortunately, Spooner was a total crank and wrong on the important issue of intellectual property. See “Law and Intellectual Property in a Stateless Society” (ch. 14), n.4 et pass.

[70] EEPP, p. 68.

[71] Ibid., p. 69.

[72] Ibid., p. 75.

[73] See note 14, above (quoting Hoppe’s explanation of why more liberal or free-market states are more successful in war or imperialism than more socialist states).

[74] EEPP, pp. 86–87. Here one is reminded of government leaders referring to taxes as “contributions.”

[75] Ibid., p. 88.

[76] Ibid., pp. 88–89.

[77] Ibid.

[78] Ibid., p. 116.

[79] Ibid., pp. 117–19.

[80] Ibid., p. 122.

[81] Ibid.

[82] Ibid., pp. 125–26.

[83] Ibid., p. 155.

 

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Rothbard Graduate Seminar, 2002

In 2002, I participated as a faculty member for the Rothbard Graduate Seminar (orig. link), a five-day event at the Mises Institute. Walter Block, Hans-Hermann Hoppe, Jörg Guido Hülsmann, Roderick Long, and others were also on the faculty. I presented three lectures over the first three days: “Natural Law and Positive Law,” “Self Defense, Punishment, and Proportionality,” and “The Theory of Contracts.” It was a really great conference. I particular enjoyed Roderick Long’s lectures, for example. Unfortunately, though the conference was videotaped, the recordings were apparently lost or misplaced. In any case, my lecture notes are here and pasted below. Some of the material in my lectures was later (or already) incorporated into articles or posts, such as:

Also, much of this material was later re-presented in my 2011 Mises Academy course on “Libertarian Legal Theory: Property, Conflict, and Society.”

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Question about the feasibility of anarcho/libertarianism

Email exchange:

Hey Stephan,

(Preface: I think I agree with you “in principle” on things anarchy/libertarian)

Quick question that I’d appreciate an answer to:
Setup: I’ve heard it said that the problem with minarchism is that any State will always turn into a big corrupt State.
The libertarian (read: anarchist) criticism of the state is not that it is big or corrupt. All states are too big and all states are “corrupt.” It’s not as if a small state is okay but a big one is bad. Even minarchists admit this: http://www.stephankinsella.com/2009/05/ayn-rand-endorses-big-government/
The explanation is that minarchism requires a certain percentage of the population to maintain a belief and conviction about minarchism (“you now have a Republic… if you can keep it”), and that this is just not possible in reality – at least not for very long – given human nature, which generally leans Leftist/Statist for various reasons.
That’s not my explanation. I think the state does rest on public consent, but this includes all types of states, even the mini-states favored by mini-statists. See http://www.stephankinsella.com/2010/02/swinkels-and-hoppe-on-the-tacit-support-of-the-state/
I don’t think Minarchy is stable at all. Any state that is “small” is going to grow. This is part of its nature. On this see Hoppe. The minarchists may hope and pray that such a dangerous beast that they establish, a minimal state, can be constrained from becoming larger, by a written constitution or by public opinion, but this is foolish. Paper constitutions don’t prevent tyranny, when the state itself can interpret its own limits. And public opinion doens’t matter–the logic of a state is to seize power. The populace, if it thinks a mini-state is justified, has no sound ideological basis to oppose its expansion. They are already confused. The idea that we can finally reach libertopia in the form of a mini-state, if the people finally undersatnd that a state is necessary but only a mini-state, is ridiculous.

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David Kelley on the Necessity of Government

Related:

Update: William Thomas, “Libertarianism and Objectivism: Compatible?“, Atlas Society (June 29, 2010): “One important difference is that Objectivism holds that man needs government, a point many libertarians deny. Freedom requires an enforceable system of adjudication that establishes, though objective principles, when force has been used and allows for the rational settlement of disputes on the basis of individual rights to life, liberty, and property. Only an institution that effectively dominates and regulates the use of force in a given geographic area can provide and enforce such a system of law. So we all need government to set us free from force.”

This is a good example of the danger of using using the term “government” instead of “state.” What the Objectivist believes is that government—the institutions of governance, i.e. law and order—is impossible without a state, just as many people believe that roads are impossible without the state. Thus when a libertarian anarchist says they oppose institutionalized aggression and therefore they oppose the state, the minarchist, in conflating the terms, hears that we oppose government, since they do not believe “government” is possible without a monopoly, that is, without the state. But this is dishonest equivocation. The minarchist is free to argue that government is not possible in anarchy, but the concepts are distinct and the difference between the anarchist and minarchist is on this issue: whether order is possible without the state and its monopoly on force. It is dishonest equivocation to use semantics to argue a substantive point just as it’s somewhat dishonest for anti-abortion activists to label their position “pro-life” and  for the other side to call their position “pro-choice”, since there, the real debate is over whether fetuses have rights and whether it is a crime to abort a fetus. Thus to keep the debate on substance, the anarchist should make it clear that they oppose the state not “government,” to keep the mini-statist from falsely accusing us of opposing “government” i.e. law and order. Make the mini-statist, who claims to oppose aggression, explain why the state (not “government” which is ambiguous) does not commit aggression. This also helps make it clear why their claims that government is “necessary” is simply irrelevant; the question is not whether the state, or government, is “necessary”; it is whether aggression is justified and, if so, whether the state does, or does not, commit aggression. (See, on this, The State is not the government; we don’t own property; scarcity doesn’t mean rare; coercion is not aggression, What It Means To Be an Anarcho-Capitalist and The Irrelevance of the Impossibility of Anarcho-Libertarianism.)

And see: Nicholas Dykes, “The Facts of Reality: Logic and History in Objectivist Debates about Government,” J. Ayn Rand Stud. 7, no. 1 (Fall 2005): 79–140

From a Facebook post:

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In a classic article in 1974, Objectivist David Kelley set forth a concise argument for the minarchist view of the necessity of government. See David Kelley, “The Necessity of Government,” The Freeman (April 1, 1974).

In this interview by minarchist Jan Helfeld, Kelley briefly discusses his views on the state—stating basically that we need a state because with multiple defense agencies, there might be war, because there might be disagreement. So, a state is justified, because it is necessary, and it is necessary, because the possibility of disagreement and conflict and war means it is necessary to have one single agency that has the ultimate, final say-so.

Of course, as I pointed out in an anarchy-vs-minarchy debate with Kelley’s colleague at PorcFest last year, which Kelley moderated, 1 this would imply we need a one-world government—I’m sure Kelley recognizes this difficulty, which is probably why he asked Thomas to respond to this objection during our debate (of course, Thomas couldn’t answer this objection). 2

Another problem with this view is that there is no guarantee this minimal state would be right in case of a dispute with the smaller agencies it is able to suppress—mere “finality” is not a goal of libertarian justice; there would also need to be a guarantee that the “final” decisions of this one-world state are just, or, at least, more just than what its competitors might have decided. And of course such a guarantee is impossible—especially when this state has monopoly power and no competition….

In any case, at the very end of this video linked below, Kelley also points out that funding for a minimal state is a difficult issue. He notes that Ayn Rand also believed a minimal state was justified and necessary, but since she opposed aggression (what she called “the initiation of force”), and since taxation is obviously aggression–her view was that the state has to be funded voluntarily–i.e., taxation by the minimal state is impermissible.

Kelley says he disagrees with Rand on this—i.e., he seems to be in favor not only of the the minimal state, not only in favor of the state’s right to use violence to outlaw competing defense agencies, and apparently the state’s right to become the sole state in the world (so that it can have the “final say” and prevent war)—but it can also tax its … customers and force them to fund it. (And Helfeld says he agrees with Kelley.) 3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58x4DuLmmRA&app=desktop

h/t Jack Criss

Upate: My previous “debate” with Helfeld on anarchy is at “KOL123 | Debate with Jan Helfeld on Anarchy vs. Limited Government.”

Update: “The question of how to implement the principle of voluntary government financing—how to determine the best means of applying it in practice—is a very complex one and belongs to the field of the philosophy of law. … Any program of voluntary government financing is the last, not the first, step on the road to a free society—the last, not the first, reform to advocate. … But still, a gradual process is required—and any program of voluntary government financing has to be regarded as a goal for a distant future.” Ayn Rand, “Government Financing in a Free Society,” in The Virtue of Selfishness. “I want to stress that I am not an advocate of public (i.e., government-operated) schools, that I am not an advocate of the income tax, and that I am not an advocate of the government’s “right” to expropriate a citizen’s money or to control his spending through tax-incentives. None of these phenomena would exist in a free economy. But we are living in a disastrously mixed economy, which cannot be freed overnight.”  “The Ayn Rand Letter, Vol. 1, No. 12 March 13, 1972, Tax-Credits For Education,” in The Ayn Rand Letter, Volumes I-IV 1971-1976.

  1. See “KOL183: Stephan Kinsella vs. William Thomas: Anarchism: For And Against: A Debate (PorcFest 2015)“. []
  2. See my posts “Rand, Objectivism, and One-World Government” (Sept. 17, 2009) and “Objectivism, Bidinotto, and Anarchy” (Sept. 17, 2009). []
  3. Apparently, Ayn Rand’s attorney and IP-advocate Murray Franck also accepts the legitimacy of taxation. See Murray I. Franck, “Reply to Sechrest: Private Contract, Market Neutrality, and ‘The Morality of Taxation,’J. Ayn Rand Stud. 2, no. 1 (Fall 2000): 141–59, responding to Larry J. Sechrest, “Rand, Anarchy, and Taxes,” J. Ayn Rand Stud. 1, no. 1 (Fall 1999): 87–105 (the assholes at JARS don’t make their articles available free online); Marsha Familaro Enright, “Reply to Sechrest: On the Origins of Government“; Franck, “Taxation is Moral,” Full Context 6, no. 10 (June 1994): 9–11; idem, “The State, the Market, and the Morality of Taxation,” Full Context 11, no. 1 (Sept./Oct. 1998): 14–16; also Peter Saint-Andre, “On the Road to Voluntary Government Financing,” Full Context (April 1994), and idem, “Voluntary Financing and the Nature of Government,” Full Context (Sept. 1994). So basically Franck was wrong on everything; bad on IP, bad on the state, bad on taxation. Update: Will Thomas also seems to favor taxes, William Thomas, “Organized Government,” Atlas Society (Sep. 28, 2010). Richard Salsman also agrees that taxation is justified. See Is Taxation Theft? with Professor Richard Salsman. See the Liebowitz tweet. []
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What Sparked Your Interest in Liberty? (FEE.org)

[Update: see various biographical pieces on my publications page, including Alan D. Bergman, Adopting Liberty: The Stephan Kinsella Story (2025).]

My short reminiscence, “What Sparked Your Interest in Liberty?” [archived version; repixeled below], was published last month at FEE.org (April 21, 2016). It augments an earlier piece, “How I Became A Libertarian,” LewRockwell.com (Dec. 18, 2002). 1 Related biographical pieces are here:

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What Sparked Your Interest in Liberty?

[FEE.org, April 21, 2016]
   

Unlike other libertarians, who moved from the left, or from the right, I moved from nothing: from a political vacuum. I was a smart kid from the country who loved science and technology and fantastical fiction but who knew almost nothing about economics, philosophy, or politics.

As Jerome Tuccille’s book vividly and humorously illustrates, It Usually Begins With Ayn Rand, and so it did in my case. A high school librarian at my Catholic high school in Louisiana sensed my growing interest in ideas, and told me to read Ayn Rand’s The Fountainhead. I devoured it, and many other works. As I discussed previously in How I Became A Libertarian, Rand’s ruthless logic of justice appealed to me. It complemented my growing skepticism of pseudo-science and religion, and fed my thirst for serious thought applied to important and interesting issues. I found it so satisfying that there could be rigorous thought and reason applied in areas outside the natural sciences. It fed into my nascent sense of justice that I had nursed as a victim of bullying as a small, bookish child. It stoked my passion for consistency; I can appreciate Rand’s contempt for the Emersonian bromide that “consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds.”

Rand and her passion for truth and ideas sparked in me a furious quest in my college years for as much information as I could find on these and related topics. As I was always confident and capable and smart, and felt I could accomplish whatever I wanted, the extreme confidence and individualism of her heroic characters appealed to me. Rand led to economics, both Chicago (Milton Friedman) and Austrian (Hazlitt, Mises, and the rest), philosophy, and so on.  Eventually I discovered dozens of other provocative and inspirational thinkers, most significantly, in my case, Mises, Rothbard, and Hans-Hermann Hoppe, and to close relationships and friends in the libertarian intellectual movement that have persisted to this day, and that have helped to shape my avocational life. And ironically, The Fountainhead to me now seems hardly libertarian—Roark is a strange narcissist who commits acts of intellectual property terrorism. [The Fountainhead and IP Terrorism; On The Fountainhead as IP Terrorism: “I designed Cortlandt. I gave it to you. I destroyed it.”]

Rand’s influence may be on the wane among current generations of libertarians. In the last twenty or so years we’ve seen the rise of Ron Paul as another significant spark for liberty, and the emergence of the Internet coupled with astounding growth in the number of libertarians and libertarian scholars, foundations, groups, subgroups, and events, both in the US and internationally.

What sparked my interest in liberty? I can name several things. The thirst of a young boy, unexposed to ideas, for more. The outrage felt at injustice, because of experiences with bullies as a small young child, leading to a strong desire for justice, right and wrong. The insightful and powerful suggestion of a librarian, Ms. Renee Reinhardt. But what really sparked my love and passion for liberty? Although the answer is by now a bit trite and uninteresting, because it is so common, the truth is: Ayn Rand.

  1. Re-published as “Being a Libertarian” in I Chose Liberty: Autobiographies of Contemporary Libertarianscompiled by Walter Block; Mises Institute 2010. []
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Kevin Carson on Confiscating Property from the Rich

On stupid and confused “thickism” see various posts under tag thickism, and Cory Massimino, “Libertarianism is More than Anti-Statism,” C4SS (April 8th, 2014).

A few years back, I had a disagreement with left-libertarian Kevin Carson who implied, I thought, that anyone who is “rich”—say, who earns more than $250k a year—earns his money illegitimately, by being part of the state’s exploiting class, and it would be just to confiscate his wealth. See, for example, our interchange in the comments thread to his C4SS post “I’ve Never Seen a Poor Person Give Anyone a Job”.

In some of his arguments (such as in this interview) he appeals to Rothbard for support. As far as I can tell, he is referring to Rothbard’s “Confiscation and the Homestead Principle,” from Libertarian Forum, vol. 1.6, June 15, 1969. Here Rothbard writes:

Let us now apply our libertarian theory of property to the case of property in the hands of, or derived from, the State apparatus. The libertarian sees the State as a giant gang of organized criminals, who live off the theft called “taxation” and use the proceeds to kill, enslave, and generally push people around. Therefore, any property in the hands of the State is in the hands of thieves, and should be liberated as quickly as possible. Any person or group who liberates such property, who confiscates or appropriates it from the State, is performing a virtuous act and a signal service to the cause of liberty. In the case of the State, furthermore, the victim is not readily identifiable as B, the horse-owner. All taxpayers, all draftees, all victims of the State have been mulcted. How to go about returning all this property to the taxpayers? What proportions should be used in this terrific tangle of robbery and injustice that we have all suffered at the hands of the State? Often, the most practical method of de-statizing is simply to grant the moral right of ownership on the person or group who seizes the property from the State. Of this group, the most morally deserving are the ones who are already using the property but who have no moral complicity in the State’s act of aggression. These people then become the “homesteaders” of the stolen property and hence the rightful owners.

Take, for example, the State universities. This is property built on funds stolen from the taxpayers. Since the State has not found or put into effect a way of returning ownership of this property to the taxpaying public, the proper owners of this university are the “homesteaders”, those who have already been using and therefore “mixing their labor” with the facilities. The prime consideration is to deprive the thief, in this case the State, as quickly as possible of the ownership and control of its ill-gotten gains, to return the property to the innocent, private sector. This means student and/or faculty ownership of the universities.

As between the two groups, the students have a prior claim, for the students have been paying at least some amount to support the university whereas the faculty suffer from the moral taint of living off State funds and thereby becoming to some extent a part of the State apparatus.

The same principle applies to nominally “private” property which really comes from the State as a result of zealous lobbying on behalf of the recipient. Columbia University, for example, which receives nearly two-thirds of its income from government, is only a “private” college in the most ironic sense. It deserves a similar fate of virtuous homesteading confiscation.

But if Columbia University, what of General Dynamics? What of the myriad of corporations which are integral parts of the military-industrial complex, which not only get over half or sometimes virtually all their revenue from the government but also participate in mass murder? What are their credentials to “private” property? Surely less than zero. As eager lobbyists for these contracts and subsidies, as co-founders of the garrison state, they deserve confiscation and reversion of their property to the genuine private sector as rapidly as possible. To say that their “private” property must be respected is to say that the property stolen by the horsethief and the murdered [sic] must be “respected”.

[See also Rothbard on the “Original Sin” in Land Titles: 1969 vs. 1974; Murray N. Rothbard, “Confiscation and the Homestead Principle (1969),” Panarchy; Jeff Deist, “Rothbard on Slavery Reparations,” Power & Market (July 12, 2019)]

But of course Rothbard later implicitly repudiated these views, as can be seen in his 1974 article “Justice and Property Rights,” as I’ve explained in Justice and Property Rights: Rothbard on Scarcity, Property, Contracts.

Anyway, if there was any doubt about Carson’s views, which I inferred from his previous writing as made clear in our discussion of the $250k issue, there can be little doubt now: in a recent Facebook post, leftish libertarian Nick Manley posted this from an email interchange with Carson:

“A not 100 percent converted but sympathetic radical leftist I know who respects your work and C4SS wants to know if you favor the kind of direct confiscation of state capitalist or capitalist property say Rothbard advocated in Confiscation and the Homestead principle. He seems to think you have a more Tuckerite “freed markets will solve it” attitude.”

Kevin Carson responded with:

“Oh, I’m totally in favor of confiscating it, at least if the actual occupation is carried out from below (e.g. by tenants, landless people or radical unions). No reason to wait for the market to take care of it. Given the near 100% of Fortune 500 corporations that are only in the black because of economic rents or environmental cost externalization, I’d be happy to treat all those companies as proxies for the state capitalist sector just for starters.”

For more, see:

Update:

I loved PorcFest. Some people there i talked to wondered why I’m so anti-left-libetarian.

How about this, where Kevin Carson calls for BEHEADING cable company executives:

“Rather than net neutrality, I would far prefer a genuine free market reform based on removing all those privileges. I’d remove all legal restrictions on cheaper, higher quality wireless competition from municipal fiber-optic infrastructure — preferably with the local wireless service run as a consumer cooperative rather than by government. I’d also let ratepayers take back that $200 billion they were robbed of in the form of muni wireless cooperative equity in the telecom companies. Or maybe just seize the fiber optic infrastructure from Verizon, Comcast et al and march the boys in the C-suites to the guillotine — that’s always an option, too.”

https://c4ss.org/content/36145

Here’s another juicy nugget:

http://c4ss.org/content/37218
“I for one am not interested in working through the state to impose a higher minimum wage. I think workers, acting through grassroots labor campaigns and direct action, should hit employers so hard that they beg government to protect them from us.””

And another: Carson arguing anyone making $250k is a parasite – https://c4ss.org/content/4018 . [The comments for this are now deleted, either out of incompetence or cowardice, so see below, from the archive]

 

C4SS.ORG
In an article I wrote several years ago (“Free Market Reforms and the Reduction of Statism,” The Freeman, Sept. 1, 2008), I stated some principles that are relevant to the current debate on “net neutrality”: Some forms of state intervention are primary. They involve the privileges, subsidies, and ot…
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Carson arguing anyone making $250k is a parasite – https://c4ss.org/content/4018 . From the archived comments:

“I’ve Never Seen a Poor Person Give Anyone a Job”

Posted by Kevin Carson on Sep 16, 2010 in Commentary • 35 comments

“I’ve never seen a poor person give anyone a job.”  The cliche is commonly repeated on the Right, in polemics against what they call “class warfare” — not that there’s actually much of it being waged by Democrats, except when they’re fighting on the same side as the Republicans.  See also “Big corporations give people jobs.” It’s a really stupid argument, if you can even dignify it by using that word.

In every society in human history, the class that controls access to the means of production and subsistence, and hence controls access to productive work, is the class that provides whatever “jobs” exist.

Suppose some follower of Milton Friedman in the old Soviet Union thirty years ago had criticized their system of state-owned industry and central planning, and waged “class warfare” against the state managerial bureaucrats and planners.  An apologist for that system could have said — with just as much truth as his American counterpart defending big business — “it’s state industry that provides all the jobs.” A Russian counterpart of Newt Gingrich or Dick Armey could have ridiculed the “class warfare” of people who “want jobs but criticize the state industrial managers who provide them.”

A member of the landed nobility in France seven hundred years ago could have said, with as much justice as his American counterpart, “It’s the great landlords who provide the peasants with land to work to feed themselves.”

All of these “arguments” accept existing distributions of property and power as a matter of course, with no regard to whether or not they came about in a just manner.

The state, by its nature, is the instrument by which some ruling class extracts rents from the labor of the productive classes.  In every society in history since the rise of the state, the state has been controlled by some class that uses it as an instrument for living at the expense of the productive majority.

Modern capitalism is a huge advance on previous class systems in two ways. First, the ruling class has figured out how to allow just enough economic freedom to the producing classes to maximize the rent it can skim off the top.

Second, it leaves its predecessors in the dust when it comes to the kind of ideological legerdemain used to legitimize it in the eyes of its subjects.

In previous systems of class rule, like chattel slavery and manorialism, the exploitative relationship between the ruling class was maintained by direct coercion. There was no doubt in the mind of the slave or serf that he was on the weak end of a power relationship with those for whom he worked.

Modern capitalism, on the other hand, falsely masquerades as a “free market,” presenting the appearance of a neutral set of general laws that governs relations between free and independent contractors. But the appearance of a neutral legal framework is a lot like one of those old mechanical chess-playing machines, in which the “machinery” really consisted of a dwarf on the inside moving the levers.

The “neutral” rules of corporate capitalism are not neutral at all.  They’re rigged to ensure that the house wins the overwhelming majority of the time. Modern capitalism was founded on the expropriation of the peasant majority’s land; to the present day the largest tracts of land are held pursuant to political title rather than homesteading by individual  labor, and the great majority of vacant land has been politically appropriated and held out of use.  Through legal barriers to competition in the supply of credit, through so-called “intellectual property” law, and through assorted regulations that impose entry barriers to competition, the state enables a privileged class of owners to control access to natural  opportunities and collect rents from artificial scarcity.

As Hagbard Celine, one of the characters in R.A. Wilson’s Illuminatus! Trilogy put it, when a series of apparently “equal exchanges” all result in what seems to be a predetermined result, “a mathematically smooth function, a steady profit accruing to one group and an equally steady loss accumulating for all others,” it’s a fair bet “the system is not free or random” after all.  Rather, background rules of the marketplace are set so that A and B “do not bargain as equals.  A bargains from a position of state-granted privilege; hence, he always profits and B always loses.”

Capitalism, Wilson says elsewhere, is “that organization of society, incorporating elements of tax, usury, landlordism, and tariff, which thus denies the Free Market while pretending to exemplify it.” Capitalists occupy a position under capitalism analogous to that occupied by the great landlords under the Old Regime.

Or in Celine’s words:  “There is no more Free Market here than there is on the other side of the Iron Curtain …”

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C4SS Research Associate Kevin Carson is a contemporary mutualist author and individualist anarchist whose written work includes Studies in Mutualist Political EconomyOrganization Theory: A Libertarian Perspective, and The Homebrew Industrial Revolution: A Low-Overhead Manifesto, all of which are freely available online. Carson has also written for such print publications as The Freeman: Ideas on Liberty and a variety of internet-based journals and blogs, including Just Things, The Art of the Possible, the P2P Foundation and his own Mutualist Blog.

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I agree with most of everything you said here. But I’m curious, are you for extending the “Bush tax cuts” or not?
In the context of how “extending the Bush tax cuts” is argued in the media (as Steven Handel suggests), it’s claimed by the Republicans that keeping the cuts unchanged is giving us the highest number of private sector jobs possible, other factors being equal. Obama may argue that middle class small businesses employ more people per dollar than the top tax bracket plutocrats. That assertion is similar to a Reagan era 1981 NSF study I quoted in an article long ago, favorably comparing small business innovation per R&D dollar to big business. This point has nothing to do with taxation being theft, of course.
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skunk1980· 50 weeks ago

I think the sentiment of this article is quite correct though the final quote is off (just give it 5-15yrs though).

Mr. Carson, how would you respond to individuals that self-identify as capitalists and say something like: “Taxation, tariffs, trade blocs, central banking, etc — that’s not capitalism; that’s cronyism, corporatism, and socialism. What we have now is not true capitalism and frankly we have never quite had it.”? In other words, some individuals effectively hold the true meaning of the word capitalism to be synonymous with free market. How might you respond to this? Consider an entire article on the subject as, after all, right wing anarchism is on the rise.

Steve: I couldn’t very well oppose it and be consistent in principle with my opposition to expanding the state. And there’s probably some fraction of income over $250k that was really earned through hard work and enterpreneurship.

If Obama’s cutoff point were, say, extending the tax cuts for everyone below $5 million, that might be a bit less clearcut for me because at that level the probability that anyone made over that amount of money through non-political means approaches zero. But even then, it would be going to a state whose main purpose is to prop up the present state capitalist structure.

I’ll definitely say extending tax cuts to the top 2% is near the bottom of my list of things to expend effort lobbying for, however.

skunk1980: I’ve got no quarrel with those who want to use the c-word for a free market. But I think there’s some value to reserving it to the actually-existing system of historic capitalism, the same way chattel slavery and feudalism/manorialism were used in reference to actual historic social systems rather than to idealized models. That’s especially true given that “capitalism” was first used mainly by radicals who used it in the sense of a system run in the interest of capitalists, and who emphasized its continuities with earlier social systems.

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skunk1980· 50 weeks ago

Thank you for the reply. This makes sense what you say. So we might want to ditch capitalism as an identifier and affiliative term because historically it has always been bed buddies with the State. That is strangely practical for an anarchist.

I find myself in so much double talk. Depending on the crowd I either approve or disapprove of both capitalism and socialism. This is obnoxious. But even the term “free market” is tainted. What is one to do?

Kevin,

Or in Celine’s words: “There is no more Free Market here than there is on the other side of the Iron Curtain …”

With lines like this, not the first time I’ve seen equation, I’m starting to think you’ve lost the ability to meaningfully distinguish between US state-managed capitalism and Soviet communism…..

In previous systems of class rule, like chattel slavery and manorialism, the exploitative relationship between the ruling class was maintained by direct coercion. There was no doubt in the mind of the slave or serf that he was on the weak end of a power relationship with those for whom he worked.

Just one thing: before the Renaissance, those weren’t “systems of class rule”. Looking at things that way is the vulgar historical error of interpreting the past as though it actually used the current systems with which we are familiar, rather like interpreting other countries’ and cultures’ customs as analogues of our own. To be sure, we can interpret things like chattel slavery and manorialism as giving rise to classes – but they weren’t, themselves, the product of class mechanisms the way (say) US slavery was perpetuated by a framework that the slave owning class actively fostered. Rather, slavery in ancient times was generated by clan and family systems (ranging up to tribal ones), and manorialism was likewise done locally by local wealthy and/or warlike small groups (the mediaeval European aristocracy is traceable back to a fusion and synthesis of barbarian warlords and late Roman wealthy magnates) – none of which rested on any wide ranging class, though it did eventually lead to a stratification that produced one.

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Paul· 50 weeks ago

Kevin, speaking of tax policy, what are your thoughts on the Fair Tax proposal? It seems to me that a national sales tax would be difficult to enforce against the informal economy, which would provide an important advantage.

I have difficulty in thinking about whether such policies would be net positives in light of their effects on what you call the competitive sector of the economy. From my understanding, these are the enterprises and markets which are formal in the sense that they operate by the rules of the legal system, but which receive relatively few advantages/protections from the state (and presumably come out as net “losers” to the “house” to use your analogy).

What is the outlook for this sector? Would increasing regulatory burdens on the competitive sector be helpful in forcing more of them to go informal?

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Jeff· 50 weeks ago

Hi Kevin,

I enjoyed the thought-provoking read. Something that bothers me about your vision of modern American capitalism is that it seems to ignore the meritocratic aspects of our system, which allow for anyone who works hard enough to become a “newly minted” member of the ruling class. So many of our business leaders come from very humble beginnings, as well as lawyers, judges, doctors, politicians, etc. To downplay or disregard this fact is to ignore something fundamental and unique about the American system, and it is contrary to your dichotomy of scheming ruling class vs enslaved producing class.

Jeff

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Paul Z· 50 weeks ago

@ Jeff – nothing unique about the ‘meritocratic aspects of our system’. Lots of folks from ‘very humble beginnings’ in the Soviet Union or Nazi Germany or just about anywhere else you care to look, have worked hard and made sacrifices and became members of the ruling class.
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SPBS· 50 weeks ago

@ skunk1980

I’ll probably catch hell for typing this, but here goes…

I have a fundamental problem with the word “capitalism” because it is fundamentally against truly free, natural, or “organic” markets. If I have a system that favors, explicitly or implicitly (even just by name) one of the economic factors of production over the other, I don’t have a true free moving market. (More modern attempts to support capitalism by defining it as a “system where the factors of production are privately held” and then including labor as one of those privately held factors included within capital are a convoluted mess as the necessary distinctions between factors are obscured).

While I enjoy much of the writing on C4SS, it tabs itself as a “market anarchist” site and I see the same problem in that. Markets don’t deserve any additional favor in an anarchist scheme. If anarchism is about getting rid of hierarchy and control, what do markets have to do with that in a fundamental way? Free markets may be a product of a functioning anarchist society, as well as an aiding factor, but markets are not more fundamental than the family, or homestead, or individual. In fact, they are the products of those. It is confusing a secondary phenomena for a primary phenomena.

Likewise, when people say that markets are the most democratic interaction, when freed, this is also confused to me. Markets are not more democratic than the other ways we encounter and interact with each other – friendship, love, concern, and laughter are more democratic and more fundamental – in fact these drive the markets as our needs that give cause to pursuing the obtainments of markets; from our base necessity needs of food, shelter, etc., to these higher level needs.

Our economic worldview has just been elevated too much.

SPBS: From the writings of Charles Johnson and Roderick Long, I would say the word market is more encompassing than what you seem to think. You should try this by Johnson:

http://radgeek.com/gt/2010/05/07/free-market-anti…

It seems like you have the cash-nexus definition in mind, whereas they think of the free exchange one.

Paul: It seems to me that, for the people actually paying it, the Fair Tax would amount to a shift of the tax burden onto the middle class. It’s part of a wider phenomenon of shifting taxes off of returns on property and onto returns on human labor.

Jeff, check out this comment re meritocracy:
http://mutualist.blogspot.com/2007/01/you-dont-ge…

Aside from the fallacies of composition I discuss in that piece, another major objection to meritocracy is that the shape of the ladder itself is unjust. See, for example, Christopher Lasch’s discussion of Lincoln on the “mudsill theory” in Revolt of the Elites. To a considerable extent, the system imposes unnecessary levels of credentialling to do anything, puts a floor under the cost of subsistence by artificially increasing the amount of effort required for a given unit of consumption–and then tells people that if they work hard enough, they can make it. The problem is, the people who are deciding how hard we have to work to make it are not accountable to us.

SPBS: What Marcel said. Left-wing market anarchists use the term “market” to include not just the cash nexus or the market as an economic institution, but the sum total of all voluntary interactions. To the extent that “market” carries primarily economic connotations for most people, this may be unfortunate. But most of us are quite friendly to the kinds of institutions that Kropotkin and Colin Ward described.

Another home run from Carson.

In my debates with economic conservatives who make these kinds of arguments, I’ve found it helpful to make a sharp distinction between meritocracy and egalitarianism, and between natural or voluntary hierarchies and artificial or coercive ones.

For instance, I agree with conservatives who emphasize individual merit over equality for its own sake, but I would agree with Kevin that present systems of state-capitalism are not genuinely meritocratic economic arrangements. Instead, the game is rigged to favor the house, i.e. vested economic interests possessing the subsidy of history and political favoritism achieved through alliance with the state.

Many of you will likely disagree with me on this, but I would argue the purpose of libertarianism/anarchism should be to strip away systems of artificial economic privilege imposed by the state in favor of a genuine meritocracy. The (ostensible) ideal of the classical liberal tradition and The American Way was for such systems of caste-privilege to be replaced with a fluid system where everyone rises or falls by his own merits. In a contemporary context, this would mean eliminating the systems of monopoly Kevin writes about like central banking from the top or local zoning laws from the bottom, which are more or less the modern equivalent of eliminating titles of primogeniture or systems of enclosure.

However, I think that to ever get anywhere with mainstream conservatives or libertarians who claim to be free market, it is necessary to concede that in such a genuine meritocracy, there would still be plenty of un-meritorious people. On an individual level, I don’t think there can ever be equality between the wise and the foolish, the intelligent and the stupid, the creative and the dull, the strong and the weak, the healthy and the sick, the educated and the ignorant, the responsible and the reckless, the sober and the drunk or addicted, etc. This is the most serious deficiency of egalitarianism, in my opinion. I know plenty of people whom I’m sure would be deadbeats and losers in any kind of society or economic system.

Also, I think there would still be winners and losers among economic enterprises in a genuine free market as well. Some businesses would be successful, and others would fail. Some would endure for a long time, others would have a shorter lifespan. That would be true of enterprises regardless of their ideological foundations or specific structures. Some anarcho-communist communes might be successful. I know of one about an hour from my residence. Others might fail. Some of the Israeli kibbutzim are more successful than others, and some of you would likely be very dismayed to know that the more successful ones tend to have a strong sense of religious or ethnic identity. Some mutual banks would succeed, some would fail, etc.

As a consequence, some people would have more wealth than others, as would certain businesses or social groups. We might not have the super-rich of the present plutocratic order, and there may be fewer desperately poor, and a larger petite bourgeoisie class and all that, but I still think there would be an elite class, an intellectual class, a professional class, a merchant class, a working class, an agricultural farming class, a lumpen proletarian class, and so forth. Every functional society since Aristotle’s time (or before) has been organized that way.

There would also be a hierarchy according to ability and training. A hospital is still going to rank neurosurgeons over candystripers and janitors. A university is going to (hopefully) rank professors over freshmen. There would also be inequality among social groups. For instance, in my view at least, males and females have different biological destinies and therefore different social destinies. Both sexes should have the same
ights in a legal and political sense, but the idea of equality (which is really just a synonym for sameness) that modern leftists dream of is an impossibility. As Rothbard said, egalitarianism is a revolt against nature.

Right-libertarians and conservatives recognize these facts, and that is their strongest point, in my opinion. The way to reach them with left-libertarian ideas on economics is to point out the anti-meritocratic rather than the anti-egalitarian nature of the present system.

Keith, I agree with all your points about income differentials based on skill and effort. But a system in which income really did reflect merit or effort would be so radically egalitarian, after the present system, as to seem almost Maoist in contrast.

Re businesses going out of business, though, I think the distinction between being “in business” and “out of business” would be a lot less meaningful in cases where capital outlays required for production were minimal, production tools were individually affordable, and minimal levels of overhead made it possible to ride out long periods of slow business without going further in the hole. In such areas of the economy, I suspect the model would be less one of discrete businesses arising and failing, than a lot of independent contractors constantly joining and leaving projects, or temporarily falling back on other paid work, on the model of the free software community or the construction industry.

LOL, Maoism is about as un-egalitarian as it gets, at least in practice. The Maoist model is to reorganize the whole society in wild and crazy ways as a Chinese anthill.
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Stephan Kinsella· 50 weeks ago

Kevin:

“there’s probably some fraction of income over $250k that was really earned through hard work and enterpreneurship.”

Only *probably*? and only “a fraction”? You apparently suspect or believe that most if not all of income over $250k is somehow illegitimate. This is mind-boggling to me, that you actually think this. And it doesn’t have to be thru hard work or entrepreneurship to be legitimate–it can also be through smart work in some profession–say, acting, medicine, some profession, smart trading or investing, etc.

“If Obama’s cutoff point were, say, extending the tax cuts for everyone below $5 million, that might be a bit less clearcut for me because at that level the probability that anyone made over that amount of money through non-political means approaches zero.”

How can you say this? I know lots of people who make that kind of money legitimately.

“I’ll definitely say extending tax cuts to the top 2% is near the bottom of my list of things to expend effort lobbying for, however.”

Given that it funds the state, and amounts to massive, unjust theft of most of those taxed, it’s shockingly unlibertarian to have such a low priority on this, IMO.

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Bones· 50 weeks ago

Yo Stephan,

If your wealth is earned by taking more money for a thing than that thing cost, your wealth is illegitimate. If your wealth is earned by paying people less money than they make for you, your wealth is illegitimate. If your wealth is earned by actions which do not benefit society, your wealth is illegitimate.

“it’s shockingly unlibertarian to have such a low priority on [tax cuts for the richest 2%], IMO.” If you had a time machine and could go back in time, how often would you make out with Ayn Rand?

You seem to have missed (or disagree with) the point of the article, which is that the ruling (and managerial) classes only appear useful because they have forced their way into useful positions. If they were gone tomorrow, having turned everything they ordered to be built to rubble, the working classes could rebuild it all within a year, because we have done it all before.

Stephan: You’re not reading very carefully. I didn’t say “income around $250k.” I said “income over $250k.” That extends from $250k upward to infinity, and includes all incomes up to that of Bill Gates. So I’d say “probably” and “some fraction” is quite fair. And getting “if not all” out of “some fraction… probably” is really a stretch.

“Unjust theft” of “most of those taxed” implies that “most” income over $250k is justly acquired, which would include multibillionaires and the commanding heights of the plutocracy. And “given that it funds the state” is something that *I* mentioned, if you recall.

As for the “shockingly unlibertarian” part, this comes from someone who dismisses thick libertarianism on the grounds that no authoritarian personal behavior is unlibertarian, and libertarianism per se has nothing to say about it, so long as no formal rights violations take place. So if you’re unwilling to condemn personal authoritarian behavior toward other people within workplace hierarchies, racism and sexism, etc., as unlibertarian if no formal rights violations have taken place, it’s a bit odd for you to condemn as “shockingly unlibertarian” my own choice of what to expend my own personal effort worrying about and advocating for.

Bones wrote:-

If your wealth is earned by taking more money for a thing than that thing cost, your wealth is illegitimate. If your wealth is earned by paying people less money than they make for you, your wealth is illegitimate. If your wealth is earned by actions which do not benefit society, your wealth is illegitimate.

All of that is wrong, and most of all the first and last sentences.

The first sentence means that taking a cash profit is always wrong. It means that any viable cash based activity is wrong.

The second sentence means that any cash activity that takes two people, say an electrician and his apprentice, is wrong unless the apprentice makes at least as much money as the trained electrician. (And the same goes for many other activities.)

The third sentence means that anyone who makes wealth (not necessarily money) by simply minding his own business is wrong, that only people who benefit others are allowable. That would rule out the biblical patriarchs, with their wealth in flocks and herds and owing nothing to any man, yet it would allow the brothers of Joseph who sold him into slavery (since everybody gained, as it turned out in the end – even the Egyptian peasants who had to give up their land for food, since the alternative would have been their starving).

Kinsella may have the wrong end of the stick, but it won’t do to throw red herrings at him.

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Hugo· 50 weeks ago

@Stephan Kinsella I usually agree with you, but I think this time you are looking for disagreement out of habit.

@Kevin Carsson I liked this piece so much that I am going to take the time to translate it to spanish for my blog.

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Hugo· 50 weeks ago

Here is the spanish translation of the article for anyone interested: http://www.errorespuntuales.es/content/nunca-he-v… (can not edit my previous comment).
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Stephan Kinsella· 50 weeks ago

Kevin:

Stephan: You’re not reading very carefully. I didn’t say “income around $250k.” I said “income over $250k.”

I didn’t refer to income “around” $250k; I said, “You apparently suspect or believe that most if not all of income over $250k is somehow illegitimate.”

That extends from $250k upward to infinity, and includes all incomes up to that of Bill Gates. So I’d say “probably” and “some fraction” is quite fair. And getting “if not all” out of “some fraction… probably” is really a stretch.

“Unjust theft” of “most of those taxed” implies that “most” income over $250k is justly acquired, which would include multibillionaires and the commanding heights of the plutocracy.

It doesn’t seem like a stretch to me. Your view does seem to be that, of those making more than $250k, there may be (“probably”) a fraction (usually this indicates a small percent) of them that earned it “legitimately.” Reading this, I take you to be saying something like this: “Maybe 5%, if any, of people making more than $250k earn it legitimately.” You were not explicit but this is an implication. The “if any” is warranted b/c you said “probably.” Thus, my interpretation “You apparently suspect or believe that most if not all of income over $250k is somehow illegitimate” seems warranted to me, and you have said nothing here to gainsay it. You could simply have clarified but you still haven’t done so. I can only guess at what your actual view is. I don’t myself know, of course, what the right percentage is, but if I were to guess it would be more like 50% to 75% is legitimate. Your view, I suspect, is down in the 10% or less range. So then, we just disagree.

My interpretation here can also be understood in light of typical and expected comments from leftists like “Bones,” who wrote:

If your wealth is earned by taking more money for a thing than that thing cost, your wealth is illegitimate. If your wealth is earned by paying people less money than they make for you, your wealth is illegitimate. If your wealth is earned by actions which do not benefit society, your wealth is illegitimate.

This kind of outrageous Marxoid economic illiteracy pops up quite often in left-libertarian discussions. Of course it’s going to color how your words are construed, especially when you are not very explicit. Some of your comrades apparently do think that it’s almost impossible to make more than $250k legitimately, and your comments seemed compatible with this. In any case, our different economic perspectives apparently lead to radically different assessments of the current order.

This is a good example of what has concerned me in the past in left-libertarian paeans to localism, etc.–that their preferences are colored by their economics, and vice-versa. That if you envision an ideal order with radically reduced division of labor and employment, more self-sufficiency etc., more humble incomes, etc., then if you espy high income, employment, etc. in the real world then you have to assume something fishy is at work to produce these artificial results. One’s preferences color one’s view of an ideal world, and then this determines what ones sees as deviations now.

I think a free society would of course be heavily capitalistic, but it would very likely be extremely diverse. Sure there would be more opportunity for self-sufficiency, calling versus career, localism, etc., but in my view there would still be corporations and capitalism, employment and the division of labor, and wildly successful hyper-rich people. When I see the modern landscape I think there are not enough rich people; you (apparently) see conspicuously too many. Thus, where I realize that some of the current rich did so through state connections and artificial arrangements, I see most current successful people as being wealthy despite the state, and realize that there are unseen millions of “would have been millionaires” if not for the state’s hampering the market; whereas you (apparently) assume the vast bulk of the rich only got that way because of the state.

And “given that it funds the state” is something that *I* mentioned, if you recall.

Yes, which is why it seems to me that putting tax cuts at such a low priority seems wrong to me. But I grant that this is more of a strategy issue to me–so long as you acknowledge that taxing someone is theft. The problem is I am not sure you do–if you believe 90% (say) of those earning more than $250k a year get their money illegitimately, then it is not in fact theft to tax them. Sure, you can still object to the state getting that money because it will misuse it–but so will the rich–they’ll use it to acquire more capital or hire more people etc. than they otherwise could. Now I would actually be sympathetic to an argument that most people, when taxed, are not actually stolen from, because they consent to the state–not because of their social class. In this perspective most workers, poor, and “managerial class” members all consent to the state and thus it’s hard to argue it’s outright theft when the state they support does what states do. But this is a consent-based argument, not a classist or economic one.

As for the “shockingly unlibertarian” part, this comes from someone who dismisses thick libertarianism on the grounds that no authoritarian personal behavior is unlibertarian, and libertarianism per se has nothing to say about it, so long as no formal rights violations take place. So if you’re unwilling to condemn personal authoritarian behavior toward other people within workplace hierarchies, racism and sexism, etc., as unlibertarian if no formal rights violations have taken place, it’s a bit odd for you to condemn as “shockingly unlibertarian” my own choice of what to expend my own personal effort worrying about and advocating for.

Well, this is a fair point; if you are talking only about strategy. But I was not sure you were, as noted above. My objection to “thickism” is not in its actual contentions, most of which are common sense (there are connections, etc.), but in its coherence and rigor as a doctrine–and also in some of the leftish flavors of it. Of course there is nothing wrong with “authority” or “hierarchies” per se–and “authoritarian” is used in too fuzzy ways or even in incorrect ways by leftists to say that it’s some kind of proxy for injustice. Racism is of course immoral (sexism can be but it’s more complicated), but even racism in the workplace is not unlibertarian. 1

Bones:

You seem to have missed (or disagree with) the point of the article, which is that the ruling (and managerial) classes only appear useful because they have forced their way into useful positions. If they were gone tomorrow, having turned everything they ordered to be built to rubble, the working classes could rebuild it all within a year, because we have done it all before.

I would not contrast “the working classes” with the state and its cronies. If you were to eliminate the state and the Wesley Mouches, then what would be left would be the private, productive class, which includes workers as well as others such as entrepreneurs, capitalists, employers, professionals, managers, what have you. And as for *this* group, these “classes,” if one insists on thinking of them this way, are symbiotic. But to assert that absent the “managerial class” the workers could rebuild it all is ridiculous.

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MJ· 50 weeks ago

Kevin,

Excellent article. It’s funny because I usually have these types of discussions with “liberals” who will go to another country see ridiculous poverty and come back and say those in the projects “have it easy” because they receive government benefits and/or have access to very low wage jobs. In debates like those, I recall Malcolm X’s field negro Vs. house negro speech. The “corporations provide jobs” argument in defending the current state capitalist system to benefit certain developed countries’ poor populations is like telling the house slave to be thankful for their master since they’re not one of the ones working in the fields.

Stephan,

I agree with you that the main problem with capitalism is that there’s too few holders of wealth, not too many. However, I believe that’s what most left-libertarians argue… a distribution of productive property rather than a state-backed distribution of resources. (Welfare, etc.)

Hugo: Thanks much for the kind words and for translating my piece!

Stephan: Here you are conflating most *income* over $250k with most *people* making over $250k, which is quite sloppy. Two very different things. And there’s a very big difference between incomes *around* $250k and incomes *over* that amount. As my argument that “over $250 k” is an income bracket extending upward to infinity, not only do I not gainsay your argument, I’m quite willing to stipulate to an estimate that most money earned over $250k is illegitimate. Do you really believe the majority of the money in that bracket is earned by people at the lower end? I repeat, income *over* $250k includes *everything* up to and including Bill Gates and other corporatist billionaires.

You managed to get from a fraction of the *income* over $250k to a fraction “of them” (the earners), and from there to the very specific fraction of 5%. So you’re not even very clear about what concepts you’re talking about or bothering to make apples-to-apples comparisons to what I actually wrote. So all these numbers are something you pulled out of–well, you didn’t pull them out of anything I wrote. I don’t believe by any means that so small a fraction of the income of the median *earner* over $250k is illegitimate. I wouldn’t be suprised if so small a fraction of *total income* over that amount is illegitimate; but then I suspect that the great majority of the income over $250k is concentrated in the hands of a much smaller number of people than the total population of earners over $250k.

As for your judging me by Bones’ comments, you yourself have made it clear by your own actions that anyone can read anything into anything, if they want to badly enough. I have written what I have written. What you or Bones read into it is between you and Bones.

I remind you of the way you jumped all over me because of my reading of Lew Rockwell’s assorted comments on BP and the environment–a reading of Rockwell’s comments which I consider to have been far more justifiable based on what he actually wrote. So how come you’re not blaming Rockwell for what I read into his commentary, and arguing that the widespread backlash against it for sounding like cheap apologetics for the poor, poor victims in the BP C-suite and like so much know-nothingism about “the environment” must indicate there was something of that sort in his writing there to be found?

I really think Hugo is right. Most of your criticism is just silly, based on a knee-jerk reaction. Your need to go off half-cocked with visceral outrage is such that you’re conflating entirely different statistical categories. I think this entire exchange has just been silly and unproductive. Maybe you should just stipulate, for the record, that you disagree with all of my future assessments of the degree of corporatism vs. market in the economy, and leave it at that.

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Stephan Kinsella· 50 weeks ago

Kevin,

“Here you are conflating most *income* over $250k with most *people* making over $250k, which is quite sloppy.”

Ah, I see now, you were talking about money, not people. I don’t know how billionaires’ income factors in to the mix comapre to that of 10 millionairess’, so I am not sure. I was talking about people, and thought you were too. E.g., if there are 10M Americans making > $250k, my view is that most of those people earn it legitimately.

“I’m quite willing to stipulate to an estimate that most money earned over $250k is illegitimate. Do you really believe the majority of the money in that bracket is earned by people at the lower end? I repeat, income *over* $250k includes *everything* up to and including Bill Gates and other corporatist billionaires.”

I’m not sure how it’s distributed. My undersatnding is people who earn say $250k to $5M a year pay most income taxes, so that implies to me that there is a much larger overall pool of money from such people, than from the Bill Gates types.

Let me put it this way: take the class of people who make between $250k and $8M a year. My gut guess is at least 50-70% of them earn it legitimately.

“I don’t believe by any means that so small a fraction of the income of the median *earner* over $250k is illegitimate.”

Oh, good. Maybe we don’t disagree as much as I thought.

“I wouldn’t be suprised if so small a fraction of *total income* over that amount is illegitimate;”

Okay, I see: you are assuming that most of the money made by billionaires is corrupt; and that the total of this money, is far greater than the sum of money made, say, by people who earn between $250k and $5M. I don’t know why you assume this.

” but then I suspect that the great majority of the income over $250k is concentrated in the hands of a much smaller number of people than the total population of earners over $250k.”

Right. I suspect otherwise, given for instance what I have heard about who pays the most in income tax. But not sure. Are you aware of any good stats on this to back you up?

“I really think Hugo is right. Most of your criticism is just silly, based on a knee-jerk reaction. Your need to go off half-cocked with visceral outrage is such that you’re conflating entirely”

Kevin I had no outrage at all, visceral or otherwise. I expressed disagreement with what I thought you were saying, but now realize you were talking about the pool of money itself, not the people who earn it. My apologize for that misunderstanding.

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Stephan Kinsella· 50 weeks ago

Kevin,

Googling (I would say Wolfram-Alpha-ing but I tried it and it didn’t give good results) there are a number of sources on income distribution.

See e.g. http://www.williams.edu/Economics/bakija/BakijaHe… (Bakija) which cites this table: http://elsa.berkeley.edu/~saez/TabFig2006.xls. Tables in Bakija show a variety of professions in which the top 1%, top 0.1%,and so on, earn their money: executives, managers, entrepreneurs, entertainers, professionals and so on. I would not presume that any of these gets their money illegitimately; the presumption is otherwise unless we can point to some act of coercion, some receipt of money directly or indirectly from the state, etc.

Note also, from the .xls:

Top 10% $104,366 Top 10-5% 7,418,050 $122,359

Top 5% $147,839 Top 5-1% 5,934,440 $207,707

Top 1% $376,378 Top 1-0.5% 741,805 $458,208

Top .5% $592,681 Top 0.5-0.1% 593,444 $956,460

Top .1% $1,909,872 Top 0.1-0.01% 133,525 $3,707,091

Top .01% $10,482,368 Top 0.01% 14,836 $29,726,899

I.e., only the top 0.01% earn more than $10M. That means the vast bulk of the “rich”–say, anyone in the top 1%, who earn more htan $376k a year, are earning less than $10M a year. I dont konw about you but I don’t know that a $10M income means we can presume there is some corruption, crime, implicit theft. IF you just look at these numbers, the average income of the top 0.01% is $29M. Looking at table 2 of that XLS file, you can see the relative number of tax units to get their data. If you just multiple that number times the average income in Table 0, we get a total for the top 1% of:

198,950 x $458k = $91B

159,160 x $956k = $152B

35,811 x $3,707,091 = $133B

(3,581 + 398) x $29,726k = $118B

total: $494B

That means those earning > $10M a year earned only 24% of the total income of the class of the top 1% earners.

Even if you assume all of those making > $10M a year are criminals (which they are obviously not), 75% of the top 1% make less than $10M, and an average of less than $3.5M.

So the only way for you to assume that MOST of the money of the top 1% (>$375k salary) is “illegitimate” is to assume that income of about $400k or $450k is also presumptively illegitimate.

So my initial gut reaction is confirmed by this quick (admittedly informal) check of the data. The vast bulk of INCOME of the post-$376k-income set, is earned by people making less than $10M a year.

If you massage the data more, it appears that about HALF the income of the above-$250k-set is earned by people making at most $592k a year.

So even if you view as “suspect” those making $1.9M or more (the top 0.1%), still, HALF the total income of the 1% group (>$376k) is made by people who make less than $600k a year.

For you to say that most of the income of the top 1% (or so) is illegitimate, you would really have to … basically count anyone making more than about $300k or so as presumptively corrrupt/criminal/statist.

I’d be curious to see what you think about this.

MJ,

“It’s funny because I usually have these types of discussions with “liberals” who will go to another country see ridiculous poverty and come back and say those in the projects “have it easy” because they receive government benefits and/or have access to very low wage jobs. In debates like those, I recall Malcolm X’s field negro Vs. house negro speech. The “corporations provide jobs” argument in defending the current state capitalist system to benefit certain developed countries’ poor populations is like telling the house slave to be thankful for their master since they’re not one of the ones working in the fields.”

Yes! Great points.

Stephan: What I think is that I’ll give you the last word on it. I’ve just finished a shift in an understaffed shithole where I was on my last nerve and about to crawl out of my freakin’ skin from nonstop interaction with people, and right now I’m just congratulating myself that I didn’t snap and go out on the hospital roof with a sniper scope-equipped rifle and wind up on the news. Right now just looking at all those colums of numbers makes me want to pass out. I’ve got another column to write tomorrow, and I really didn’t intend for this one to turn into a Vietnam-style quagmire. There are people like Tim Starr who make a career out of comment thread debates, but I’m not one of them. I think I’ll just start saying “no comment” when someone asks me about legislation.
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Stephan Kinsella· 50 weeks ago

Kevin, in this case, I’ll sum up.

I did originally misread your comment: I thought you were talking about whether the typical person earning > $250k earns it illegitimately or not. I thought you were implying he did, and I disagreed with this. If I understand your position now, based on your subsequent explanations to me, you do not believe that a large percentage of those making more than $250k a year earn it illegitimately.

I gather you would not say the same about the hyper-rich, say, those making > $10M a year–the 0.01% class. You might assume that most of those get their money illegitimately. I do not. I think Bill Gates would still be a billionaire even without copyright law. So would Oprah and Bill Cosby and Madonna. Or at least hyper-rich. I don’t think Microsoft’s money that comes from having employees, and being a corporation, taint its income (copyright is another matter).

I understand you don’t want to pore thru spreadsheets, but that’s why I already did it and summed up for you. The bottom line is that it appears that at most 25% or so of the income of the top 1% is earned by people making more than $10M a year. Given that you have admitted you don’t think we can presume “that so small a fraction of the income of the median *earner* over $250k is illegitimate,” it seems now that you would have a hard time assuming that the bulk of the MONEY of the top 1% class is also illegitimate. Thus, your earlier comment “there’s probably some fraction of income over $250k that was really earned through hard work and enterpreneurship” is incompatible with the facts combined with your view about legitimacy of the lower portion of the top 1%. This is why I first reacted to your comment, because I had some sense of the actual distribution of money in the top 1%. You were under the belief “that the great majority of the income over $250k is concentrated in the hands of a much smaller number of people than the total population of earners over $250k.” This is wrong.

It’s why I confused your statement originally–you calim there is some statistical difference between what I thought you meant and what you meant, but that is only because you think there is a concentration. I believed there was no concentration so I realized that the two statistics were going to be similar in any case. That is I realized that b/c there is no concentration in the upper 0.01% (say) that if you condemn “most of the money” you are necessarily condemning even the lower portions of the top 1% earners. You thought it was concentrated so that you could condemn the upper 0.01% earners only by attacking the bulk of the wealth. But you can’t. If you attack the bulk of the top 1% INCOME then, because there is no concentration as you had assumed, you are attacking MOST of the post-$250k EARNERS themselves–which you have now said you will not do. So, your two positions are incompatible, and my criticism of your first one stands.

So, when you wrote: “Most of your criticism is just silly, based on a knee-jerk reaction” — this is wrong. My criticism was not silly,and was not knee-jerk. I have some awareness of the spread of income in the top 1% and knew that however you finessed your first comment, it would imply that, say, a doctor making $350k or a businessman making $750k a year are presumptively criminal, and I rejected that, and still reject it–and apparently you reject it too.

” need to go off half-cocked with visceral outrage is such that you’re conflating entirely different statistical categories. ”

I assure you I had no outrage at all. You misunderstand me. I was not hostile or angry in the slightest, nor did I mean my comments in any personal way. They were meant to discuss in civil fashion the substance of what you claimed explicitly or implicitly.

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SPBS· 50 weeks ago

I read the article and stand by what I wrote. From the article, consider that when specifying Markets as Free Exchange we get the explanation “any economic order based…” which was my final point in that our perceptions have been skewed by an undue emphasis on economic thinking.

“Family sharing” is not a part of the “free market” – it is family sharing. The need to try to fit everything into a “market” is hierarchical thinking being slipped in due to conditioning to hold the idea of a market at an elevated status.

It is similar to ant colonies. We describe them as comprise of workers, soldiers, and queen. But that is imposing a conceptual framework that is not there onto our interpretation. It is unnecessary and leads to misunderstanding.

Placing “markets” over all human interchanges is similarly imposing a conceptual framework that is not there (unless the individuals, unfortunately, think of natural interactions as being part of a “market”).

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SPBS· 50 weeks ago

Clarification – my statement that I “read the article” was in response to the article Marcel linked to; not Kevin’s original article.

Stephan, I know you didn’t mean your remarks in a personal way, and I apologize for my shortness last night. I really do allocate a limited amount of energy to debates on comment threads, because I’m just not very good at switching gears between a large number of things.

And thanks for the summary. If your figures are correct, I was wrong about the distribution of income within the top 2%. As for whether most of the income of the hyper-rich like Bill Gates was legitimately earned, we’ll just have to agree to disagree. I believe that the removal of artificial scarcity rents, entry barriers, artificial overhead, etc., would make it very unlikely for wealth to build on itself to the point that there would be many fortunes in the hundreds of millions of $$, or any billionaires at all.

In the case of Oprah, I’m not saying she’s morally culpable. But there are so many mutually piggybacking legacy effects (the preponderance of large national manufacturers, a single national advertising market, the continuing holdover of what’s still a very short-tail broadcast media system, etc.) that i doubt she could have gotten this rich in a decentralized economy of local manufacturing markets and a long-tail media of the kind we’ll have when the legacy market share of the Big Three fully erodes. Not to mention the smaller money pie from controlling the distribution of content without copyright. I think with a long-tail media system with many more low-cost networked distribution venues, and without proprietary content, there would be a lot more people making modest sums of money. There will be a lot fewer blockbuster records and books, a shrinking audience for “water cooler” shows, and a lot more people making modest money serving niche audiences.

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Stephan Kinsella· 50 weeks ago

Kevin,

No apology needed. I just wanted to be clear that I did not mean my remarks in some angry or personal way.

Re Bill Gates: It’s not that we disagree. I just don’t know. My rule is to presuppose legitimacy so long as we cannot clearly attribute the monetary success to concrete criminality/statism. A vague case doesn’t cut it for me. You *may* be right about Gates but your case seems to me to depend on counterfactuals too much to be confident about the judgment. At most it’s a guess, it seems to me.

“I believe that the removal of artificial scarcity rents, entry barriers, artificial overhead, etc., would make it very unlikely for wealth to build on itself to the point that there would be many fortunes in the hundreds of millions of $$, or any billionaires at all.”

You could be right. I have just not seen a careful case made for this contention that is persuasive.

“In the case of Oprah, I’m not saying she’s morally culpable. But there are so many mutually piggybacking legacy effects (the preponderance of large national manufacturers, a single national advertising market, the continuing holdover of what’s still a very short-tail broadcast media system, etc.) that i doubt she could have gotten this rich in a decentralized economy of local manufacturing markets and a long-tail media of the kind we’ll have when the legacy market share of the Big Three fully erodes. Not to mention the smaller money pie from controlling the distribution of content without copyright. I think with a long-tail media system with many more low-cost networked distribution venues, and without proprietary content, there would be a lot more people making modest sums of money. There will be a lot fewer blockbuster records and books, a shrinking audience for “water cooler” shows, and a lot more people making modest money serving niche audiences.”

Yes, you may be right about some of this. So would Oprah be less wealthy? Maybe. How much? I dunno.

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The Unrepentant Icon· 44 weeks ago

There would also be a hierarchy according to ability and training. A hospital is still going to rank neurosurgeons over candystripers and janitors. A university is going to (hopefully) rank professors over freshmen. There would also be inequality among social groups. For instance, in my view at least, males and females have different biological destinies and therefore different social destinies. Both sexes should have the same
ights in a legal and political sense, but the idea of equality (which is really just a synonym for sameness) that modern leftists dream of is an impossibility. As Rothbard said, egalitarianism is a revolt against nature.Right-libertarians and conservatives recognize these facts, and that is their strongest point, in my opinion. The way to reach them with left-libertarian ideas on economics is to point out the anti-meritocratic rather than the anti-egalitarian nature of the present system.Sorry Keith, Kropotkin would thoroughly disagree with you:”No hard and fast line can be drawn between the work of one and the work of another. To measure them by results leads to absurdity. To divide them into fractions and measure them by hours of labor leads to absurdity also. One course remains: not to measure them at all, but to recognize the right of all who take part in productive labor first of all to live, and then to enjoy the comforts of life.” (The Wage-System)

As a feminist (and an heterosexual male), I would say that your comment is sexist. I’ve been experiencing misogynist, homophobic insults during my schooldays because I never performed well in PE classes. I’ve been called such names as “wimp,” “wuss,” “weakling,” and even “hermaphrodite” (in the strictest biological sense). I had enough of “gender roles” and “biological difference,” which you euphemistically term “different social/biological destinies” shove down my throat.

  1. For more on my disagreement re “thickism,” and “thick libertarianism,” see my comments and interchanges with Gary Chartier and Kevin Carson in Gary Chartier, “Socialism revisited,” LiberaLaw. []
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The “Out of Pocket” Idiom

Interesting facebook discussion about the meaning of the expression “out of pocket.”

The audio of the aforementioned wife’s response is here and embedded below:

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You learn something every day. For years, maybe decades, I have been around people who use the phrase “out of pocket” to mean “I’m not available right now”.

I was unaware that this was a regional usage, or that there were other usages even. Urban dictionary says it means “paid from personal funds.” I had never heard this.

My yankee friends and I had a heated debate. They said it usually means something other than “unavailable” — like “I spent money” or something. Never heard it used like that.

So I asked my wife, who is usually a reliable indicator of how normal people talk and think, out of the blue: Hey, babe, have you heard people say “I’m out of pocket”? She pauses, suspecting a setup, but says, “yes.” I say “And what do you think that means, when they say ‘I am out of pocket’?”

She instantly says, “That they’re unavailable.”

Me: “Thank you.”

CASE CLOSED YOUR HONOR

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Dr. Petr Beckmann: “Defending Nuclear Power”

Illuminating lecture by the late, great Petr Beckmann. For more on Beckmann, see my posts:

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