Kinsella on Liberty Podcast, Episode 474.
“Where The Common Law Goes Wrong,” 2025 Annual Meeting, Property and Freedom Society, Bodrum, Turkey (Sep. 19, 2025). This will also be podcast later on the Property and Freedom Podcast. Below are my notes, Shownotes provided by Grok, and the transcript. This recording is from my iphone. Professional recording and video will be uploaded later. See also Sebastian Wang, “Stephan Kinsella on the Common Law: Lessons from Bodrum 2025,” Libertarian Alliance [UK] Blog (Sep. 19, 2025). Pix.
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Show Notes: Stephan Kinsella’s “Where the Common Law Goes Wrong” – Property and Freedom Society 2025 Annual Meeting
Introduction and Context
Stephan Kinsella delivered his talk, “Where the Common Law Goes Wrong,” at the Property and Freedom Society’s 2025 Annual Meeting in Bodrum, Turkey, on September 21, 2025. Introduced by Hans-Hermann Hoppe, who shared a brief anecdote about media bias in translating Donald Trump’s interactions, Kinsella’s presentation revisits themes from his earlier PFS talks in 2012 and 2021, focusing on the interplay between libertarian principles, Roman law, and the common law. Drawing on his recent work, including the Universal Principles of Liberty (co-authored with Alessandro Fusillo, David Dürr, FreeMax, and Patrick Tinsley, under Hoppe’s guidance), Kinsella emphasizes the organic development of law and critiques the modern tendency to equate law with legislation. He humorously recounts preparing for the talk with his trainer, who mistook “common law” for “common law marriage,” highlighting the need to clarify legal concepts for a broader audience.
Defining Law and Its Evolution
Kinsella begins by distinguishing types of law: descriptive (e.g., laws of physics, economics) and normative (e.g., moral codes, legal systems). Legal laws, he argues, blend normative guidance with descriptive consequences, aiming to achieve justice through property rights. He contrasts the modern view of law as statutory decrees—illustrated by tax protesters demanding to “show me the law”—with its historical roots in decentralized systems like Roman law (500 BC–565 AD) and English common law (1066–present). These systems evolved organically through court decisions, with Roman law preserved in Justinian’s Corpus Juris Civilis and later rediscovered in Bologna around 1070, influencing European civil codes. Kinsella notes that post-1789 democratic shifts and bureaucratic growth led to an explosion of legislation, overshadowing these private law traditions.
Roman Law vs. Common Law
The talk explores why Anglo-American scholars, like Hayek and Leoni, often praise the common law’s spontaneous order while overlooking Roman law’s similar decentralized origins. Kinsella cites Hoppe’s observation, from Democracy: The God That Failed, that the common law’s non-codified nature may serve lawyers’ interests by making it less accessible to laypeople, unlike Europe’s clearer civil codes. He refutes the misconception that civil law systems inherently embody totalitarian principles (“all that is not permitted is forbidden”), attributing Europe’s socialism to separate legislation, not civil codes. Both Roman and common law, Kinsella argues, offer valuable insights for libertarians, despite the former’s neglect in free-market scholarship.
Libertarian Law and Rationalism Critique
Kinsella critiques the rationalistic tendency among libertarians to design top-down “libertarian law codes,” as exemplified by Rothbard’s hope for a comprehensive code in The Ethics of Liberty. Such approaches, he argues, ignore context and the limits of deductive reasoning, echoing Hayek’s critique of constructivist rationalism. Law, as a practical response to scarcity and conflict, developed through real-world judicial decisions over centuries. Kinsella suggests that libertarian law should evolve organically, using Roman and common law as starting points, guided by principles like non-aggression but subject to scrutiny for compatibility with liberty. He references G.K. Chesterton’s “fence paradox” to caution against discarding established legal traditions without understanding their purpose.
Where Common Law Goes Wrong and Right
Kinsella identifies aspects of common law incompatible with libertarian principles, including the doctrine of consideration in contracts (unnecessary, as Roman law shows), blackmail, trademark, defamation, trade secret laws, common law copyright, coverture (denying married women’s property rights), and primogeniture. Conversely, he praises common law solutions like mens rea, joint and several liability, and the felony murder rule, which holds felons liable for deaths during dangerous crimes. He highlights the “but for” causation test’s limitation in cases of multiple actors (e.g., two hunters simultaneously shooting a victim) and the common law’s ingenious solution of treating independent actors as jointly liable, ensuring accountability.
Vision for Libertarian Legal Development
Kinsella envisions a future libertarian society where judges apply core principles, such as those outlined in his Universal Principles of Liberty, while drawing on Roman and common law traditions. These traditions would serve as presumptively valid starting points, subject to rejection if they conflict with libertarian justice. He argues that a fixed libertarian law code is neither feasible nor desirable, given law’s contextual and evolutionary nature. Instead, advocates would argue cases based on libertarian principles and private law precedents, gradually building a distinct libertarian jurisprudence. Kinsella’s talk, rooted in his Legal Foundations of a Free Society and decades of scholarship, underscores the importance of learning from historical legal systems while refining them through libertarian reasoning.
Kinsella’s Notes
Where The Common Law Goes Wrong
Background
- KOL001 | “The (State’s) Corruption of (Private) Law” (PFS 2012)
- KOL359 | State Constitutions vs. the Libertarian Private Law Code (PFS 2021)
- Examples of Libertarian Law vs. Louisiana vs. French vs. Common Law: Consideration and Formalities
- Legislative Positivism and Rationalism in the Louisiana and French Civil Codes
- KOL129 | Guest Lecture to Montessori Students: “The Story of Law: What Is Law, and Where Does it Come From?”
- Today I’m going to talk about law
- In particular, about libertarian law, and about decentralized law like the common law and Roman law
- Returning to a topic I have touched on here before
- But hopefully with some more wisdom about this topic
- Stephanie discussion
- Telling her what my talk would be about
- She said we are not all lawyers
- I said well I don’t think most lawyers know about Roman law, or even much about the common law other than how to use it in their daily practice
- I should have known this already
- In short, I realized that, contrary to a recent meme, not everyone thinks of Rome once a day
- Much less knows about Roman Law, or even much about common law
- So I decided to try to start from some basics
- And to speak slowly, as Renata Jacobs keeps asking me to do
What is Law?
- That said, let me start from some basics.
- The word “law” has a broad meaning in different contexts.
- Law refers some regularity in events;
- to order, regularity, or rule, depending on the context
- Various types: descriptive, and normative/prescriptive
- Descriptive: causal laws; economic laws; laws of logic
- Normative: moral laws, narrow codes of ethics (doctors, lawyers)
- Legal laws: are a blend of normative and descriptive.
- Normative: Just as humans aspire to do good or right—things they “should” do—they are interested in what interpersonal actions involving force are justified, and what enforceable rules are just—what are normally called “laws”. The purpose of law is to do justice, which is normative, and a just law is one that corresponds to the rights we have—the property rights we have.
- But there is a difference between the laws actually in force in society and those that should be in force—those that are justified.
- e. we can identify laws that “exist”, i.e. that are in force, which is descriptive/factual. The question of which laws are just or justified is a normative or moral question.
- Understanding this distinction helps clear up the tired old debate between the natural law proponents (Lon Fuller) and the legal positivist (H.L.A. Hart, The Concept of Law).
- Most people now are used to thinking of law as statutes or legislation: commands issued by a legislature, or the US Constitution itself, another written document drafted and approve by vote of a committee; a decree.
- Until about 100 years ago law was not commonly thought of as synonymous with legislation; now it is.
- g. income tax protesters saying “show me the law!”
Positive Law in the World Today
- Law was not always thought of as legislation
- It actually emerged organically over centuries in relatively decentralized processes
- Primarily, the Roman Law (from about 500BC to about 565 AD (the end of Justinian’s reign) and the Common Law, from about 1066 (Norman Conquest) to present.
- Each approximately 1000 years
- The Roman Law was codified and preserved under Justinian in his Corpus Juris Civilis or Justinian Code (529–534 CE)
- In the meantime law in Europe was based on
- Germanic customary laws (Salic, Lombard, Visigothic, etc.)
- Canon law (Church law)
- And local feudal customs and town statutes
- Rediscovery in northern Italy and “Reception” into continental practice
- Around 1070, a complete copy of Justinian’s Digest was found in Bologna
- It was studied by scholars and during the 11th–15th centuries, it was gradually incorporated into the European legal system, supplementing local customary law, especially in commercial and civil matters
- In the 19th century, inspired by Enlightenment rationalism the Roman law, and the ideal of clear, written law, European law was largely systematized in codes using Roman legal categories and also incorporating European customary and case law developed after the fall of Rome (from 565–1804 or so).
- Today’s positive law systems, the European civil law systems (Europe, Latin America) and Anglo-American countries (UK and commonwealth, the United States) embody private law developed in largely decentralized court-based legal systems spanning about 1,000 years each
- With the decline of the ancien régime in France in 1789 and the collapse of monarchies after WWI and the emergence of democracies, the rise of “scientific” central planning and bureaucracies there was an explosion of regulation and legislation that has gradually crowded out and sometimes replaced the decentralized private law systems of the common law and Roman law countries
- Hoppe, Introductionto Democracy: The God That Failed
- Thus, the modern habit of thinking of law as statutes, as legislation
Roman Law vs. Common Law
- Perhaps because many of the pro-free market scholars were Anglo-American and thus familiar with the common law, there has long been sort of prejudice or view that the decentralized common law is an example of how a “spontaneous order” where order can emerge on the market
- Many libertarians and others have a favorably impression of the common law
- As they should
- Hayek, Bruno Leoni, many Chicago and “law and economics” type scholars
- The Roman Law and its modern instantiation in European civil law and civil codes, is largely ignored and given short shrift
- One reason may be the Anglo-American dominance of free market thinking
- Another is that Europe was less free market so European law is seen as more socialistic
- Or because European civil codes are legislated as statutes, and thus enshrine a type of legislative or legal positivism
- However, this is not because of the Roman law or the European civil codes, but because of non-code statutes
- Some even erroneously think that civil law of Europe, because it is legislated or because Europe tends to be more socialistic, embodies the maxim “All that is not permitted is forbidden”
- This is true of totalitarian systems, but not of modern civil law
- Some even erroneously think that civil law of Europe, because it is legislated or because Europe tends to be more socialistic, embodies the maxim “All that is not permitted is forbidden”
Hoppe on the Civil Codes
- As noted: many libertarians praise the common law, most fail to understand the civil law in Europe also came from a decentralized legal system (Roman law)
- In Professor Hoppe’s lecture on The Production of Law and Order: Natural Order, Feudalism, and Federalism, starting at 1:07:30 (loosely transcribed):
- “A little side remark, in English speaking countries there is a certain amount of pride in having the so called “common law,” which is in a way non-codified law, case law. The continental tradition has been for a long time different. There we have had codified law.
- “Anglo-Saxons look down on codified law and hail their non-codified common law. I want to remark that Max Weberhas a very interesting observation regarding this. He sees the reason for the non-codification of the common law in the self interest of the lawyers to make the law difficult to understand for the layman and thus make a lot of money. He emphasizes that codified law makes it possible for the layman on the street who can read to study the law book himself, and go to court himself, and point out “here this is written down” and so forth.
- “So maybe this excessive pride that Anglo-Saxons have in their common lawmight be a little bit overdrawn.”
- [Update: See the more extensive comments by Hoppe in this regard in the book based on these lectures, as quoted in Roman Law and Hypothetical Cases; see his Economy, Society, and History(Mises Institute, 2021; https://www.hanshoppe.com/esh/), p. 111]
Libertarianism and Roman and Common Law; the “Libertarian Law Code”
- In any case, from a libertarian point of view, when we libertarians point to private law, we need to have in mind both the Roman law/civil law and the Anglo-American common law
- Why does this matter?
- It is because many libertarians have a naïve or rationalistic view of libertarian law as being designed top-down by libertarian philosophers
- This is the source of obsessions with lifeboat scenarios, “would you push the button” scenarios, and armchair theorizing
- Even Rothbard talked about the “Libertarian Law Code” of a free society
- “While the book establishes the general outlines of a system of libertarian law, however, it is only an outline, a prolegomenon to what I hope will be a fully developed libertarian law codeof the future. Hopefully, libertarian jurists and legal theorists will arise to hammer out the system of libertarian law in detail, for such a law code will be necessary to the truly successful functioning of what we may hope will be the libertarian society of the future.” —Murray N. Rothbard. “Ethics of Liberty.”
- The problem is that such scenarios leave out the context
- There is a limit to deductive reasoning
- Some Randians have a point when they criticize “excessive rationalism”
- Which many of them of course suffer from
- And of course Austrians from Mises to Hayek to Rothbard and Hoppe have criticized scientism and various errors
- g. Hayek’s critique of “Constructivist rationalism”
- https://chatgpt.com/s/t_68c9c333780c81918ed02b12b2a0f843
- https://x.com/i/grok/share/TCnOJ6HV40iO5Gc6U63ZY6QZz
- Mises: Keep It Interesting
- The essential point is that context matters and there are limits to armchair reasoning
- Law is a practical matter: property rights emerge as a normative response to the problem of conflict and disputes in a world of scarcity
- This is one reason law emerged over two separate 1000 year periods gradually by judges hearing real cases between actual parties having a dispute over control of some resource
- In these cases, the judges can take testimony and evidence, they can take into account relevant evidence, customs, and context
- We must also remember modern libertarianism is a relatively young philosophy, about 70 years old
- We cannot expect it to fully formed yet
- Some Randians have a point when they criticize “excessive rationalism”
The Task of Libertarian Law
- It would futile to try to write a complete Libertarian Constitution, since constitutions are statist documents
- Or even to write a complete Libertarian Law Code.
- For one, it is premature.
- For another, it would impossible. Law does not develop that way.
- Finally, it would be stupid to throw out the accumulated wisdom that can be found in the Roman law and Common Law
- Chesterton: “In the matter of reforming things, as distinct from deforming them, there is one plain and simple principle; a principle which will probably be called a paradox. There exists in such a case a certain institution or law; let us say, for the sake of simplicity, a fence or gate erected across a road. The more modern type of reformer goes gaily up to it and says, ‘I don’t see the use of this; let us clear it away.’ To which the more intelligent type of reformer will do well to answer: ‘If you don’t see the use of it, I certainly won’t let you clear it away. Go away and think. Then, when you can come back and tell me that you do see the use of it, I may allow you to destroy it.’”
- On the Role of Commentators and Codes and the Oracles of the Law
- See related Hoppe point that you don’t discard a causal theory merely after a falsification unless you have a better one to replace the old one
- “There is no situation conceivable in which it would be reasonable to throw away any theory—conceived of as a cognitive instrument of action—that had been successfully applied in a past situation but proves unsuccessful in a new application—unless one already had a more successful theory at hand.” Hoppe, “In Defense of Extreme Rationalism,” in The Great Fiction
- So the role of libertarian scholars is to carefully justify, elaborate, and clearly set out our principles
- As for the former (scholarship), this is what many libertarian thinkers have done the past several decades, including, most importantly, Murray Rothbard and Professor Hoppe.
- It is what I have tried to do in my own writing over the last 33 years, based largely on the work of Rothbard and Hoppe
- Legal Foundations of a Free Society (Papinian Press, 2023)
- As for the latter (setting out the principles), libertarian legal scholarship has reached point of maturity where our basic principles can be clearly and concisely stated
- I have made an attempt at this in my recent Universal Principles of Liberty, written with the assistance of several people here today
- Alessandro Fusillo, David Dürr, and FreeMax, and Patrick Tinsley, under the watchful eye of Professor Hoppe
- The idea is that jurists of a future society can refer to these basic principles in their reasoning and decisions
- They would draw, as appropriate, the Roman law and Common Law, but only insofar as these laws are compatible with fundamental libertarian principles
- I have made an attempt at this in my recent Universal Principles of Liberty, written with the assistance of several people here today
- Chesterton: “In the matter of reforming things, as distinct from deforming them, there is one plain and simple principle; a principle which will probably be called a paradox. There exists in such a case a certain institution or law; let us say, for the sake of simplicity, a fence or gate erected across a road. The more modern type of reformer goes gaily up to it and says, ‘I don’t see the use of this; let us clear it away.’ To which the more intelligent type of reformer will do well to answer: ‘If you don’t see the use of it, I certainly won’t let you clear it away. Go away and think. Then, when you can come back and tell me that you do see the use of it, I may allow you to destroy it.’”
Private Law as a Guide to Libertarian Law
- Thus judges would regard previous private law as a starting point, perhaps with a presumption of validity, but subject to challenge in light of consistent and foundational libertarian principles.
- Rothbard was close to this view, but a bit more rationalistic
- “there exists another alternative for law in society, an alternative not only to administrative decree or statutory legislation, but even to judge-made law. That alternative is the libertarian law, based on the criterion that violence may only be used against those who initiate violence, and based therefore on the inviolability of the person and property of every individual from “invasion” by violence. In practice, this means taking the largely libertarian common law, and correcting it by the use of man’s reason, before enshrining it as a permanently fixed libertarian code or constitution. And it means the continual interpretation and application of this libertarian law code by experts and judges in privately competitive courts.”
- https://mises.org/library/how-have-law-without-legislation
- We can expect advocates on both sides of disputes in a young libertarian system to argue whether a given common law rule is or is not compatible with libertarian law and whether it should be adopted and incorporated into the growing body of libertarian law and jurisprudence, or rejected as incompatible
- Just as we are now at the point where the basic principles of libertarian justice can be succinctly and precisely stated, we can also comment on some aspects of existing private law that appear to be incompatible with libertarian principles, keeping in mind the limitations of armchair theorists
- I have collected a few examples of where I think the private law goes wrong (and what it gets right).
- Rothbard was close to this view, but a bit more rationalistic
Where the Common Law (and Roman Law) Goes Wrong
- Consideration (in contract)
- Blackmail
- Trademark law
- Defamation law/reputation rights
- Trade secret law
- Common law copyright
- Slavery
- Viewing contracts as binding promises giving rise to obligations
As I point out in Epstein on Roman Law,
And I think both the Roman and common law of contract are wrong—not really because it’s unlibertarian, but because of some initial mistakes in the understanding of the relationship between property rights and contracts that only became clearer later, primarily with some insights pioneered by Rothbard and Evers and expanded and clarified by me.
- coverture (Suggested by Roberta Modugno in the comments to the Facebook post: “May I suggest you the common law doctrine of “coverture”? It was the doctrine denying the private property rights to married women. It was treated by William Blackstone in his Blackstone Code. Very, very unlibertarian.”)
- primogeniture (suggested by Grok)]
Where the Common Law (and Roman Law) Gets Right
- joint and several liability
- felony murder rule
- a doctrine that elevates a homicide to murder if it occurs during the commission or attempted commission of an inherently dangerous felony (e.g., robbery, burglary, or arson). Under common law, the intent to commit the underlying felony supplies the malice required for murder, eliminating the need for specific intent to kill. This rule applies even if the death is accidental or caused by a co-felon or resisting victim, and it holds all participants liable.
- actors in concert/burning down field – treating as if joint. Two hunters. ETc.
- to address this, common law recognizes an exception for duplicative causation or merged causes, often applying the substantial factor test to hold both actors liable. This exception treats each actor’s conduct as a cause if it was a substantial factor in producing the harm, even if neither was strictly necessary due to the other’s actions.
- Restatement (Third) of Torts § 27 (2010)
- If multiple acts occur, each of which under § 26 alone would have been a factual cause of the physical harm at the same time in the absence of the other act(s), each act is regarded as a factual cause of the harm.
- Kingston v. Chicago & Northwestern Railway Co., Summers v. Tice, Anderson v. Minneapolis, St. Paul & Sault Ste. Marie Railway Co. (1920)
- https://x.com/i/grok/share/Q625ORjtqJHtmbdJJbn50jJcf
- https://chatgpt.com/s/t_68c09ccb969c819196523dc0311f552c
- Restatement (Third) of Torts § 27 (2010)
- Similar to transferred intent
- mens rea required for criminal liability
- Act must be specific—specific intent is the highest level of mens rea, requiring a subjective desire for the prohibited result (intentional action)
- Transferred intent is a doctrine that “transfers” a defendant’s criminal or tortious intent from the intended victim to an unintended one. If a person aims to harm or kill Victim A but instead harms or kills Victim B (e.g., a bystander), the original intent is imputed to the act against Victim B, preserving liability for the intended crime. This applies to intentional torts and crimes like battery or murder, ensuring the defendant’s mens rea (guilty mind) is not negated by a targeting error.
- conspiracy
- threats/assault – includes putting in fear and attempts
- jury trial
- higher standard of proof for crimes
- double jeopardy
- forced heirship
- dog’s first bite is free
- owner was not strictly liable for injuries caused by a domestic animal (like a dog) unless the owner knew or had reason to know of the animal’s “vicious propensities.
- a dog owner is generally not held liable for the first instance of a dog bite or attack, provided they had no prior knowledge (or “scienter”) of the dog’s dangerous or vicious propensities. The rationale is that an owner cannot be held responsible for harm caused by their dog unless they were aware—or reasonably should have been aware—that the dog posed a danger.
- https://chatgpt.com/s/t_68c09da1cac081919588e45520a3ac9e
- https://x.com/i/grok/share/MNw3mVb9glrmaiStxp7dzMqjw
- Slayer rule: can’t inherit or get insurance payout
- The “Slayer Rule” (Inheritance and Insurance) Rule: A person cannot profit from his or her own wrongdoing. Thus, someone who intentionally and feloniously kills another cannot inherit from the victim’s estate nor collect life insurance proceeds. Sources: Riggs v. Palmer, 115 N.Y. 506 (1889) is the classic case: a grandson murdered his grandfather to ensure his inheritance, but the court held he could not take under the will because “no one shall be permitted to profit by his own fraud, or to take advantage of his own wrong.” In life insurance, courts have long refused to allow a beneficiary who murders the insured to recover the proceeds. See e.g. Mutual Life Ins. Co. v. Armstrong, 117 U.S. 591 (1886).
- https://chatgpt.com/s/t_68c09e81954c81918c267ef7aeaffc0d
- https://x.com/i/grok/share/6t7ZKtZXK29XjtUh0ztNO6q6H
- Promissory estoppel and other forms of estoppel
- nemo dat quod non habet (“no one gives what they do not have”:
- owner of stolen property can recover from new owner
- Exception if it is more their fault
- Estoppel: If the original owner’s actions (e.g., negligence or representation) led the good faith purchaser to believe the seller had authority to sell, the original owner may be estopped from reclaiming the property
- Eggshell skull/take your victim as you find him— “talem qualem”, “such as they are” or “as they are.”
- to address this, common law recognizes an exception for duplicative causation or merged causes, often applying the substantial factor test to hold both actors liable. This exception treats each actor’s conduct as a cause if it was a substantial factor in producing the harm, even if neither was strictly necessary due to the other’s actions.
Transcript
0:03
[Music]
0:11
Casual Conversation
Sean’s presentation was great.
I know. I like that.
It’s all about Rome. Everything’s about Rome.
0:18
Hans-Hermann Hoppe
Okay. Please, quiet, please. Quiet, please.
0:25
Introduction and Anecdote on Media Bias
Just to tell you a little story.
0:29
Hello, please.
0:38
In the German papers, they recently reported that Trump shut down some journalist asking him a question, and he said to this journalist, “Quiet.”
0:55
The German translation, however, that they gave of this interaction between Trump and this journalist was “Schnauze,” that means “rough,” that is more vulgar than saying “shut up.” You see that indicates roughly the sort of sympathy that German papers have for Trump. My sympathy for Trump is not much higher. But nonetheless, I just wanted to indicate to you how even translations can be completely misleading. “Schnauze” to say to somebody is just outrageous. But to say “quiet,” as I just did to you, is a very nice thing to do.
1:50
So now we have Steph, please.
1:55
[Applause]
2:07
Stephan Kinsella
Hello.
2:08
Opening Remarks and Personal Reflections
Oh, I’m so glad to be back here. I didn’t know 20 years ago when Hans invited me to come here that we would be doing this 20 years later, but it’s been a pleasant experience. I found this when I was packing. Some of you may remember this from four years ago.
2:26
[Music]
2:28
So, luckily we don’t need that now. I sometimes—well, one thing I’m glad about is I’m speaking early so I get to relax for the rest of the conference. Sometimes I stress out about these things. I try to time them out too much. And I realize that if I go long, I’ll just do part two on my podcast, so you can check it later. So, I’m not too worried about it. Today’s topic is—well, the title is “Where the Common Law Goes Wrong.” And this is revisiting an issue I’ve mentioned here in a couple of previous years: in the first year in 2012 that I spoke and recorded it, it was about a similar topic, and back in 2021, I spoke on something somewhat related, but I’ve had a lot more thoughts since then, and that’s what today’s talk is about—sort of as a companion to Sean’s talk about the Roman law as well, because I’m talking about the Roman law and the common law.
3:23
Background and Preparation Insights
I was working out with my trainer—as you can tell, I’m very fit and buff. And I’ve been with her for 15 years, and she’s a little bit tired of hearing my talks about libertarianism and Austrian economics by now, but I always rehearse to her what I’m going to do. And I was telling her about the common law, and she says, “What’s that?” She says, “Isn’t that common law marriage?” So, she had no idea. She says, “You need to explain these things to people. Don’t assume everyone thinks about the Roman law every day,” like the current meme. So, I figured I’ll try to start from some basics, and also Renata always reminds me to speak slowly. Speak slowly. So, I’m going to try to do that.
4:05
What is Law?
So, just some basics. So, I’m going to talk about the common law. And my title sounds like I’m criticizing the common law where it goes wrong, but it’s not really a criticism of the common law. It’s how to orient and think about it. So, when I say the common law, that’s a type of law, and what is law itself? So, law in general is a word that we use to refer to regularity of events. Right? So, we have different types of laws that we’re used to speaking of: causal laws, like the laws of cause and effect or physics laws, law of gravity, economic laws, laws of logic. Then we also have normative laws, right? Moral laws, narrow codes of ethics like for doctors and lawyers. And then we have the legal laws, or jurisprudence. And this is a blend of normative and descriptive laws. It’s normative in that laws are designed to guide us in what we should be doing in life. Right? Just like morals are designed to tell us how we should act in life. There’s a normative aspect to laws, but there’s also a descriptive aspect because they describe what will happen to you if you disobey the law. Right? So, legal laws—which is what most people mean by the word “law”—is a blend of normative and descriptive laws. Okay.
5:32
But we also, when you think about it this way, you recognize as libertarians that we criticize laws all the time as being wrong or bad or unjust. But when we do that, we recognize the ability to identify a law as existing in society without recognizing that it’s just. So, we can identify something as a law. We can say that is a law, but it’s a bad law. Right? So, we are able to distinguish between just law and unjust law. Right?
6:03
Positive Law in the World Today
Now, as I’ll get to later, most people in today’s world, even among libertarians, are used to thinking of law—that is, legal law—as statutes or as words written down on paper that are issued by decrees of a government, like a legislature or a congress. Okay? For example, even in the libertarian movement or the common law movement, these income tax protesters like in the United States, the ones who say that the income tax in America is voluntary and that you don’t have to pay it. So, you don’t have to—it’s up to you whether to pay it because sometimes, you know, the IRS commissioner will say we have a voluntary system. They’ll say things like that. So, they’ll say something like, well, it’s not illegal. It’s not legal. It’s not illegal to evade taxes. It’s not mandatory to pay taxes. And if you say yes it is, they’ll say, “Show me the law.” Now, when they say “show me the law,” they’re thinking of law as a written statute that they want you to point to to prove what the law is. And that’s because they’re used to thinking of law as commands of the legislature. Okay? But law was not always thought of as legislation. This is a relatively recent phenomenon which has corrupted our thinking of what law is. The law actually emerged—the private law, things we’re used to: contracts, family law, property rights, criminal law, torts—it emerged organically and gradually over long periods of time in human history, primarily with the Roman law from about 500 BC roughly to 565 AD, the end of Justinian’s reign, and the common law, the English common law, from about 1066, the time of the Norman Conquest, to the present. So, each about 1,000-year periods where law was developed in decentralized form, right? Decentralized form because they were both roughly court-based systems where people with disputes would come to a judge to hear their case, and the judge would make a decision based upon previous law, and the law would develop in that way.
8:06
Now, luckily for us, at the end of the Roman Empire, under Justinian, he ordered the Justinian Code to be compiled, which was the compilation of all the existing Roman law to that point, and that is what helped preserve it and helped in its rediscovery centuries later. In the meantime, after the fall of Rome in Western Europe, law was mostly—after the Roman law was mostly lost for quite some time. Law developed in Europe under Germanic customary laws like the Salic and Lombard and Visigothic laws, canon law of the Catholic Church, and local feudal customs and statutes.
8:51
In 1070, a complete copy of Justinian’s Digest was found in Bologna, Italy, and it started being studied. And so, in the 11th to the 15th centuries, there was the reception of the Roman law back into the law of Europe. And then, with the rise of Enlightenment rationalism in the early 1800s with Napoleon’s Code, there was a modern codification movement where the previous Roman law plus the European customary law were codified into beautiful or elegant civil codes. Now, they were also legislated by the legislature, which sort of made them a blend of legal positivism or legislated-based law, but also the content of the law was largely based upon the Roman law previously. So, in today’s world, the positive law systems—that is, the law that the states enforce—is largely the European civil law systems and also in Latin America, and the Anglo-American countries: the UK and the Commonwealth and the United States. They both basically embody private law, a core of private law that was developed, each in largely decentralized court-based systems over 1,000-year periods of development: the Roman law and the Anglo-American common law.
10:11
But what happened was, after the decline of the ancien régime in France in 1789 and the collapse of monarchies after World War I and the emergence of democracy and the rise of scientific central planning and the emergence of bureaucracies, there was an explosion of regulation and legislation which, starting in the early 1900s, has gradually crowded out the field in the domain of the private law system. So, the civil codes of Europe and the common law of the United States and England have gradually been crowded out by legislation, leading to the modern habit, even among libertarians, of thinking of law as statutes or legislation.
10:53
Roman Law vs. Common Law
Okay. Now, one interesting thing to note is that probably because the predominance of scholars—free market thinkers in the mid-1900s to the present—were Anglo-American and English-speaking and thus familiar with the English common law system and the American common law system, most of the study of private law was more common law-based than Roman law-based. Okay. So, you even had scholars like Leoni, who was not American, and Hayek, the Chicago law and economics scholars, studying spontaneous order and looking at the American and the English common law as an example of a spontaneous order, an unplanned order where law can emerge in a spontaneous fashion without planning. So, but without paying a lot of attention to the Roman law’s similar decentralized attributes.
11:50
Okay. And then you even have some people—because the civil codes in Europe, they are legislated, but they were legislated codifications of decentralized Roman law principles. But because they’re legislated, that gave rise to the idea of legislative positivism, the idea that law comes from the legislature. And because of this, a lot of people that are critics of legal positivism and centralized planning erroneously attribute to the civil codes of Europe the idea of totalitarian systems, which is that everything that is not permitted by law is forbidden. Right? Which is just not true. That is true of totalitarian systems, but it is not true of a civil code-based system. Just because it’s legislated doesn’t mean that the default is that you have to have permission from the government to act. It is true that in France and European countries, they tend to be more socialistic, but it’s not because they have civil codes. It’s because of other legislation that has encroached upon those fields. Okay. So…
12:52
Hoppe on the Civil Codes
And Professor Hoppe himself interestingly noted this, I think in his Democracy book. He noted that—a little side remark—in English-speaking countries, there’s a certain amount of pride in having the so-called common law, which is in a way non-codified case law. The continental tradition has been for a long time different; there we have codified law. Anglo-Saxons look down on codified law and hail their non-codified common law. I want to remark that Max Weber had this very interesting observation regarding this. He sees the reason for non-codification of the common law in the self-interest of the lawyers to make the law difficult to understand for the layman and thus make lots of money. Okay? So, in other words, the benefit of having a written civil code in Europe is that the layman can understand it. It’s not because it’s legislated. It’s because it is a codification of principles. Okay. So, as Hans concludes, maybe this excessive pride the Anglo-Saxons have in their common law might be a little bit overdrawn. Now, in any case, in my view, as a libertarian, from a libertarian point of view, what we libertarians—when we point to private law—we need to keep in mind or have in mind both the Roman law or the civil law of Europe and the Anglo-American common law.
14:07
Libertarianism and Roman and Common Law; the “Libertarian Law Code”
Now, why does this matter? It matters because libertarians have this tendency to have a naïve or rationalistic approach to libertarian law as being designed top-down by thinkers. This is why libertarians obsess with lifeboat scenarios and “would you push the button”—like, would you push a button to have anarchy tomorrow if you could? Or armchair theorizing, right? So, even like Rothbard himself veered a little bit in this direction, because he was such a pioneer and he was expected to answer so many things; he started answering questions like “what would you do in this case, what would you do in this case” from his armchair. So, as he wrote, “While this book establishes the general outlines of a system of libertarian law, however, it is only an outline, a prolegomenon to what I hope will be a fully developed libertarian law code.” So, you see, he had in mind this idea that some libertarians could write down a law code, okay? A law code of the future. “Hopefully, libertarian jurists and legal theorists will arise to hammer out the system of libertarian law in detail, for such a law code will be necessary to the truly successful functioning of what we may hope will be the libertarian society of the future.” So, Rothbard of course is correct that to have a free society and a libertarian society, it would largely embody and respect libertarian rights and libertarian laws. But he has this idea that someone’s going to hammer out a legal code like a civil code which is like the Louisiana or the French civil code which has been purified of its defects and just made to be perfect. Sort of like the image we have in the end of Atlas Shrugged, where in Galt’s Gulch, Judge Narragansett is taking the United States Constitution and he’s just slightly crossing out a few little mistakes, right, to make this perfect document to govern a free society. But the problem with the idea of designing a libertarian law code is it leaves out context. There is a limit to deductive reasoning, and like the Randians—the Objectivists—have a point when they criticize some—each other and some libertarians—for excessive rationalism, which some of them of course suffer from excessive rationalism. And of course, some of the Austrian critics like from Mises and Hayek to Rothbard and Hoppe—they’ve criticized scientism, which is related to this, and like Hayek critiqued constructivist rationalism, right? The idea that we can, with our minds, plan too much—plan the economy, plan what the law is. But the essential point we have to keep in mind is that context matters and there are always limits to armchair reasoning.
16:46
This matters because what law is—it’s a practical discipline. It’s an institution where property rights emerge as a normative response to the problem of conflict and disputes in a world of scarcity. This is one reason law did emerge over two separate 1,000-year or millennia-long periods gradually by judges hearing real cases between actual parties having a real dispute over some real resource. And in those cases, what a judge can do is he can take evidence and testimony. They can take into account relevant evidence, customs, and context. And we also must remember that libertarianism as a modern discipline is a relatively young philosophy, only about 70 years old. So, we can’t expect it to be fully formed yet. Okay.
17:35
The Task of Libertarian Law
So, what is the task of libertarian law given this background? So, we again keep in mind: it would be futile for someone to sit down and to try to write, say, a libertarian constitution. Why is that? Which I’ve tried, by the way, with the—for Liberland, we looked at a constitution. The problem with the constitution is it’s just statist. A constitution means to constitute or make up or to create a government. So, that’s not what—a libertarian constitution is a contradiction in terms. So, what about a libertarian law code itself? Well, it would be futile to try to write a libertarian law code for a couple of reasons. One, number one, it’s premature. I mean, if we—if I wrote it tomorrow, no, there’s no court that’s going to hear it because courts are statist applying state law. So, it would be—it would be sort of a futile or pointless exercise, but it would also be impossible. It’d be impossible to write it because law just doesn’t develop that way. The only way to do that would be to throw everything away and start from scratch, right? Which would be extremely rationalistic and it would be unwise to throw out the accumulated wisdom that has been developed in 2,000-year periods of judges trying to do justice in cases over, you know, over 2,000 years of experience. Let me read a quote from G.K. Chesterton.
18:52
He wrote, “In the matter of reforming things, as distinct from deforming them, there is one plain and simple principle, a principle which will probably be called a paradox. There exists in such a case a certain institution or law; let us say, for the sake of simplicity, a fence or gate erected across a road. The more modern type of reformer goes gaily up to it and says, ‘I don’t see the use of this; let us clear it away.’ To which the more intelligent type of reformer will do well to answer: ‘If you don’t see the use of it, I certainly won’t let you clear it away. Go away and think. Then, when you can come back and tell me that you do see the use of it, I may allow you to destroy it.'” Right? So, what’s the point of that? The point of that is there could be—there could be private law developed in the Roman law or the English law that is actually unjust and incompatible with libertarian principles. There could be, and there are. But we don’t just assume that. In fact, we would assume the opposite.
19:48
So, the role of libertarian scholars and thinkers is to carefully justify, elaborate, and clearly set out our principles. Right? So, as for the former—for setting them out—that’s what libertarian thinkers have been doing for a good 50–70 years. People like Rothbard and especially Hoppe, in my view, as the pinnacle of modern libertarian legal scholarship. And it’s what I’ve tried to do based upon their work in the last 30–33 years of my writing, as encapsulated in my book, which I published two years ago here. And as for the latter—for setting out our principles—I think we’ve reached a point 70 years into this endeavor where we have a good enough grasp of our basic principles to write them down in a systematic, clear formulation, which I recently tried to do just a couple of weeks ago. And with the collaboration of Alessandro and David Dürr and Professor Hoppe and Max, who’s also here, and I published something called the Universal Principles of Liberty. It’s only a couple of pages long, and it’s just an encapsulation of what we view as the libertarian conception of libertarian rights, property rights, and principles of justice.
21:01
Announcing the Universal Principles of Liberty
But this is not a complete law code and never could be a complete law code. The idea is that jurists of the future could refer to these principles in their reasoning and in their decisions. They would draw as a starting point from the Roman law and the common law, but only insofar as these principles were compatible with core libertarian principles. So, they would look at the Roman law and the common law as a starting point, maybe with a presumption of validity, but subject to challenge in light of consistency with foundational libertarian principles and keeping in mind Chesterton’s admonition not to cast away something until you’re sure why it was erected in the first place.
21:42
Private Law as a Guide to Libertarian Law
Now, Rothbard was actually close to this kind of way of looking at it when he goes on from the quote I had read earlier. He says, “There exists another alternative for law in society: an alternative not only to administrative decree or statutory legislation, but even to judge-made law. That alternative is the libertarian law, based upon the criterion that violence may be used only against those who initiate violence.” So, he says, in practice, this means taking the largely libertarian common law—he could have also mentioned the Roman law—but the largely libertarian common law and correcting it by the use of man’s reason. Now, here I agree with him. I agree with him so far. We can take that as a starting point and correct it with our reason when it’s inconsistent with libertarian principles. But then he writes, “before enshrining it as a permanently fixed libertarian code or constitution.” So, that’s getting to this idea—it’s never going to be fixed. It’s going to be a developing, organic body of law.
22:42
So, what we could expect in a future libertarian society, which we don’t have yet, is advocates on both sides of a dispute to argue for their client’s case before the judge, appealing to general libertarian principles and the body of private law that the court adopts—whether Roman law or common law—and then it would develop that way. Now, this implies that when we look at that—you can expect judges to look at the common law or the Roman law and take it as an inspiration or a starting point when there’s a dispute, and that you could imagine in a free society the law developing that way going forward: like, you start with libertarian principles to the extent they’re compatible with Roman law or common law, and the judge would confer with that, and then over time you’d have libertarian law gradually develop, and then over time more and more judges would refer to the growing body of libertarian law, and the common law and the Roman law would become less and less important over time. But this would be a gradual, probably centuries-long or decades-long process. But this does imply that I think we do have enough wisdom at this point, knowing what we know about libertarian principles, to say that there are some parts of the common law and the Roman law which are actually unlibertarian and should be rejected already from the outset. We can already say that. We don’t have to wait. And there are some parts of the Roman law and the common law which are ingenious and which we should preserve.
24:07
Where the Common Law (and Roman Law) Goes Wrong
In my remaining time—how much time do I have? Hans? Five? I’m not going to argue for these positions here, but I’ve written on them, and let me just go through a list of some things that I think where the common law is wrong. And if I were a judge in the new libertarian system, I would stick with libertarian principles and reject these aspects of common law because I think they are not compatible with libertarian law. One would be—and this is something Sean and I argued about last night because Sean is more of a fan of the common law than I am—but consideration in contract: the idea that for a contract to be binding, you need to give something of value to the other party. That’s consideration. This is why in American contracts or English contracts, we often say, “I pay you $1 or $10 consideration,” and you don’t even pay it. It’s just a formality on the paper. The Roman law doesn’t have that requirement, and I think it’s not needed. Blackmail law—I think libertarians have argued why blackmail law is unjust, but that’s a part of the common law. Trademark law and defamation law, which are both based upon the erroneous concept of reputation rights. Trade secret law, common law copyright, slavery of course, coverture—Roberta Modugno suggested that example to me: the idea that married women don’t have private property rights. Primogeniture. So, there are some aspects of the common law which I think are clearly unlibertarian.
25:42
Where the Common Law (and Roman Law) Gets Right
Now, there are some solutions of the common law and the Roman law which are just brilliant and reflect the wisdom of accumulated knowledge that comes in these decentralized systems. You know, the idea of mens rea, the idea of joint and several liability. There’s something in the law called the felony murder rule, right? Which is the idea that if you commit—if you—when you have a crime like murder—if you’re committing a dangerous felony like a bank robbery and someone is killed during that, then you can presume that it was first-degree murder. There’s an interesting example in the law where the law says to be responsible for harm to someone, you have to be the cause, which makes sense. And so, a test was developed called the “but for” cause, which means you’re only proximately responsible for an injury if you were the “but for” cause, meaning but for your action, the damage wouldn’t have happened. But the problem with that test is that you could imagine a case of two equal and independent actors who harm an innocent victim. Like, let’s say you have two hunters in the woods. They don’t even know each other, and they both shoot at the same time, and they both miss and they hit some guy in the woods, right? And they both kill this guy, or the guy’s killed. He’s struck by two bullets and dies. Either one could get off of liability by saying that neither one is a “but for” cause because it’s not true that but for my shooting, the victim would have died—because the other guy was shooting. But they could both make that argument, and that would give them immunity from liability. So, the common law says no, in that case, we’re going to sort of group these guys and treat them as if they’re acting together even though they’re not, and hold them liable anyway. So, there are solutions like that in the common law which are brilliant.
27:29
Conclusion
So, the general point is that if we are ever to be so fortunate as to have a free society where we’re starting from scratch and we have judges trying to do justice, trying to apply libertarian principles, they would and should and can be expected to refer to existing bodies of private law—namely, the common law as embodied in, say, the restatements of the law, the American Law Institute, or the European civil codes like the French civil code or the German civil code or the Swiss civil code or the Greek or the Louisiana—and use as starting points, but being ready to reject their provisions that are incompatible with liberty. Thank you very much.
28:09
[Applause]
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