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My article, The Nature of the State and Why Libertarians Hate It, has been translated into Russian, as Природа государства, и почему либертарии его ненавидят. Text reproduced below.

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My article, The Trouble with Libertarian Activism, LewRockwell.com, January 26, 2006, has been translated into Russian, as Чем плох либертарный активизм.

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“What Libertarianism Is”: Ukrainian Translation

My article “What Libertarianism Is” has been translated into Ukrainian, as  “Що таке “лібертаріанство.” Ukrainian is a first; with this, my work has now been translated into 15 languages.

 

Що таке “лібертаріанство”

Stephan Kinsella, “What Libertarianism Is”, public translation into Ukrainian from English More about this translation.

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Власність, права, та свобода

Лібертарі зазвичай мають спільні погляди на широке коло практик та принципів. Тим не менш, досягти консенсусу щодо визначальних характеристик лібертаріанства, або щодо його рис, які вирізняють його з поміж інших політичних теорій та систем, наразі не так вже й просто.

Існує безліч різноманітних формулювань. Стверджується, що лібертаріанство — це про права особистості, права власності[1], вільний ринок, капіталізм, справедливість, або принцип ненападу. Проте, не будь-що з переліченого підходить. Капіталізм та вільний ринок змальовують каталлактичні умови, що постають (чи є прийнятними) в лібертаріанському суспільстві, але вони не розкривають інших аспектів лібертаріанства. А права особистості, справедливість, та ненапад зводяться до прав власності. Як пояснив Мюррей Ротбард, права особистості є не що інше, як права власності.[2] Справедливість же, в свою чергу — це коли кожен отримує належне йому (визначене його правами).[3]

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KOL218 | Argumentation Ethics – Patterson in Pursuit

 

Kinsella on Liberty Podcast, Episode 218.

This is Episode 50 of the Patterson in Pursuit podcast, where host Steve Patterson interviews me about Hans-Hermann Hoppe’s argumentation ethics.

[Update: He does a breakdown of our discussion in Episode 63.]

Patterson’s description:

If we choose to argue, have we presupposed an ethical framework? Is “self-ownership” a concept that cannot coherently be doubted?

To help me answer these questions, I’m joined by one of the most prominent supporters of “argumentation ethics” – the theory that says ownership is inescapable, and as soon as we choose to argue, we’re committed to a set of ethical values.

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Kinsella on Liberty Podcast, Episode 217.

This is Episode 14 of the MusicPreneur podcast, “Intellectual Property is the Bastard Child of the Gatekeepers,” run by host James Newcomb (recorded Jan. 9, 2017; released Jan. 31, 2017). I appeared on his previous podcast, Outside the Music Box, a while back (KOL204 | Outside the Music Box Interview: The Ins and Outs of Intellectual Property). This one is a fresh, stand-alone discussion where I lay out the case against IP fairly methodically. MusicPreneur shownotes below. See also my A Selection of my Best Articles and Speeches on IP.

GROK SHOWNOTES:

In this interview on the MusicPreneur podcast, libertarian patent attorney Stephan Kinsella delivers a wide-ranging critique of intellectual property (IP) laws—especially patents and copyrights—calling them illegitimate state-enforced monopolies rooted in historical gatekeeping, censorship, and privilege rather than genuine property rights (0:00–10:00). Kinsella traces the origins of copyright to pre-printing-press censorship by church and crown, through the Stationers’ Company monopoly, to the 1710 Statute of Anne, and patents to royal letters patent and mercantilist grants (e.g., the 1623 Statute of Monopolies), arguing that both systems were designed to control knowledge and speech, not to protect creators (10:01–25:00). Using Austrian economics, he explains that property rights exist only for scarce, rivalrous resources, while ideas are non-scarce and cannot be owned; IP artificially creates scarcity, restricting how people use their own tangible property (e.g., a patented mousetrap) and stifling competition and innovation (25:01–40:00).

Kinsella critiques the economic and cultural harms of IP, including inflated prices in pharmaceuticals, litigation costs, and censorship of expression, contrasting these with IP-free industries like open-source software and fashion that thrive on emulation and first-mover advantage (40:01–55:00). He debunks common pro-IP arguments—the utilitarian incentive story, labor/creation-based claims, and personality theories—labeling them flawed, self-serving, or empirically unsupported, and argues that IP is a modern form of mercantilism that benefits gatekeepers (large corporations, Hollywood, Big Pharma) at the expense of creators, consumers, and freedom (55:01–1:10:00). In the discussion/Q&A portion, Kinsella addresses alternatives (trade secrets, reputation, market incentives), the digital age’s erosion of IP enforcement, and why even small creators would be better off without IP, concluding that the system should be abolished entirely (1:10:01–end). This interview is a clear, provocative libertarian takedown of IP, especially valuable for musicians, creators, and entrepreneurs.

Transcript and Grok Detailed Summary below

GROK DETAILED SUMMARY

  • 0:00–10:00 (Introduction, Kinsella’s background, and the core thesis, ~10 minutes)
    Description: Host James Newcomb introduces Kinsella as a patent attorney and libertarian critic of IP. Kinsella explains his unusual position: he has prosecuted hundreds of patents for large companies (Intel, GE, Lucent, etc.) while believing all forms of IP should be abolished. He states his central thesis: IP is the “bastard child of the gatekeepers”—a modern continuation of historical censorship and monopoly privilege, not a legitimate form of property. He briefly previews the historical and economic critique to come.
    Key Themes:

    • Kinsella’s dual role: patent lawyer who opposes patents/copyrights
    • IP as illegitimate monopoly privilege, not property
    • Framing: IP is rooted in gatekeeping (church, state, guilds, publishers)
      Summary: Kinsella establishes his credentials and the provocative title, setting up IP as a statist, gatekeeper-derived system rather than a natural right.
  • 10:01–25:00 (Historical origins of copyright and patent: censorship & mercantilism, ~15 minutes)
    Description: Kinsella traces copyright to pre-printing-press church/state control of scribes, then to the Stationers’ Company monopoly (chartered to control printing), and finally to the Statute of Anne (1710), which shifted the monopoly from printers to authors/publishers but remained a state privilege. Patents originated in royal “letters patent” (open letters granting monopolies), abused by monarchs for revenue/favors, leading to the 1623 Statute of Monopolies. Both systems were originally about control, censorship, and mercantilist privilege, not “property rights.”
    Key Themes:

    • Copyright as successor to censorship monopolies
    • Patents as royal/mercantilist grants
    • Both were temporary privileges, not natural rights
      Summary: Detailed historical account showing IP began as censorship and monopoly tools of the state and crown, not as recognition of creators’ natural rights.
  • 25:01–40:00 (Scarcity, property rights, and why IP is conceptually impossible, ~15 minutes)
    Description: Kinsella explains the Austrian/libertarian view: property rights exist only to allocate scarce, rivalrous resources and avoid conflict. Ideas, patterns, and information are non-scarce (infinitely reproducible without depriving others), so they cannot be owned. IP law therefore artificially creates scarcity where none exists, restricting how people use their own tangible property (e.g., ink, paper, machines). He uses the mousetrap example: a patent doesn’t take your mousetrap away; it takes your right to use your own materials to build one.
    Key Themes:

    • Property rights exist only for scarce/rivalrous things
    • Ideas are non-scarce → cannot be property
    • IP = negative easement / servitude over others’ physical property
      Summary: Core conceptual critique: IP is impossible in principle because ideas are non-scarce; enforcing IP violates real (physical) property rights.
  • 40:01–55:00 (Economic and cultural harms of IP; modern gatekeepers, ~15 minutes)
    Description: Kinsella discusses IP’s practical harms: patents distort R&D toward trivial patentable inventions, create litigation wars, raise prices (pharma), and enable patent trolling. Copyright locks up culture, limits remixing/fan works, and creates gatekeepers (publishers, labels, Hollywood). He compares modern IP enforcement (domain seizures, ISP cooperation, warrantless searches) to historical mercantilist abuses, arguing that large corporations are the new gatekeepers using IP to extract rents and suppress competition.
    Key Themes:

    • Economic harms: litigation, price inflation, distorted R&D
    • Cultural harms: locked-up works, stifled remixing
    • Modern IP = mercantilism 2.0; big corporations as new gatekeepers
      Summary: IP creates massive economic waste and cultural enclosure, serving corporate gatekeepers rather than creators or consumers.
  • 55:01–1:10:00 (Debunking common pro-IP arguments, ~15 minutes)
    Description: Kinsella systematically dismantles the main justifications for IP:

    • Natural rights / Lockean labor theory (flawed metaphor; labor is not ownable; creation is not a source of title).
    • Utilitarian incentive story (empirical evidence shows IP does not increase net innovation; costs outweigh benefits).
    • Personality theory (Hegel/Rand; vague and does not justify monopoly).
      He also rejects contractual IP schemes (cannot bind third parties) and notes that even trade secrets become problematic when turned into state-enforceable misappropriation causes of action.
      Key Themes:
    • Natural rights / labor theory is conceptually confused
    • Utilitarian case is empirically weak
    • Personality theory is vague and insufficient
      Summary: Comprehensive takedown of every major intellectual justification for IP, showing they are either conceptually flawed or empirically unsupported.
  • 1:10:01–end (Digital age, AI, future evasion, and conclusion, ~remaining time)
    Description: Kinsella discusses how digital technology is eroding copyright (easy copying, encryption, Tor) and predicts that maturing 3D printing + encrypted designs will eventually make patents unenforceable (1:10:01–1:15:00). He notes that AI is already being hampered by copyright threats (training data lawsuits), and hopes the immense value of AI will force society to confront the conflict between IP and human progress (1:15:01–1:20:00). He closes by reiterating that IP is a modern mercantilist gatekeeping system, not property, and calls for its abolition, directing listeners to c4sif.org for more systematic arguments (1:20:01–end).
    Key Themes:

    • Digital technology is making copyright obsolete and unenforceable
    • AI vs. IP: the coming conflict

• • Final call to abolish IP and make it “history”
Summary: Kinsella looks forward to technology eroding IP enforcement, highlights the AI-copyright tension, and concludes with a call to end IP entirely.

SHOWNOTES from host James Newcomb

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You’re probably going to disagree with what is said in this episode. In fact, it could very well make you angry. But, as Bob Dylan said, “The times, they are a changin’.”

It’s an issue that I’ve wrestled with over the years and have finally come to the conclusion that Intellectual Property (IP) is detrimental to progress and innovation. While on the surface it appears to protect the rights of content creators to profit from their content, the reality is that the only people who really profit are the “gate keepers” and those who hang out near “the gates”.

I’ve tried to take a “back door” approach with this issue before, thinking that people would somehow be persuaded to see my point of view without actually telling them my point of view. Not surprisingly, the results of that approach weren’t encouraging.

I’ve decided to just come right out and say it.

Intellectual Property is Horrible

The fact of the matter is that just about every way of thinking that was considered set in stone a short time ago is suddenly up for debate once again.

What are the origins of IP? How did it become de facto conventional knowledge in modern society? Is it really the only legalized monopoly in existence?

Enter my guest for this episode, Stephan Kinsella. He’s been a patent attorney in Houston, TX for nearly 30 years. He’s the author of Against Intellectual Property as well as a pamphlet titled, Doing Business Without Intellectual Property. 

In this discussion, we discuss why intellectual property (IP) is a hindrance to progress and innovation for musicians, and how MusicPreneur’s can navigate the oftentimes confusing waters of IP.

  • IP is not compatible with traditional view of property.
    • World of scarcity – one person can use at a time
  • Austrian Economics
    • Mises: Human Action
    • Act: Human has conception of where he is, what future is coming, anticipates what future is coming. Makes necessary changes…
    • Informed by your knowledge of what’s possible; tools at your disposal.
      • Involves employment of scarce resources
      • Guided by knowledge
  • Impossible to have monopoly in an idea.
    • IP Law enforces law with use of force.
    • Another form of redistribution of wealth.
  • 2 Rules in Acquiring Property
    • First person to start using it – Homesteading; original appropriation
    • Purchase materials in a legitimate exchange
  • How IP came about
    • Printing press was a threat to established order
    • Statute of Monopolies
    • Statute of Anne created copyright
  • Practical Application – How can musicians maximize exposure while protecting artistic integrity?
    • Don’t have to have a copyright. Don’t have to register/enforce
    • Creative Commons
    • Don’t sign rights away to a studio
    • SK self-publishing next book
      • Liberty and freedom available now that hasn’t existed
    • Profit is an unnatural thing – breeds competitors.
    • Entrepreneurs need to be aware of how business models can be copied. Some are not viable.
  • What does the next 10 years hold?
    • Nothing will change with the entrenched interests. However, it will be more and more easy to get around them. It will “force the establishment to act like entrepreneurs.”

I think that’s a good thing!

What did you think of this episode? What questions, concerns came to your mind while listening? Send me a line and let’s chat about it!

 

YOUTUBE/Grok TRANSCRIPT

[0:00] Introduction and Episode Topic

[0:01]

Newcomb: Music. Hello, this is James Newcomb and welcome to episode number 14 of Music Preneur: Making Money Making Music.

[0:15]

Today’s topic is intellectual property, and I’m going to warn you right now: if you think that intellectual property is imperative for civilization to survive, if you think that artists cannot survive or thrive without intellectual property, well, you’re not going to like this episode at all. In fact, you may as well just press stop right now.

But hopefully it will give you at least a little bit of clarity on what is at best a confusing topic, especially in this day and age. So let’s get to it with my guest, Stephan Kinsella. Welcome to the program.

[1:01]

Kinsella: Thanks. Glad to be here.

[1:00] Host’s Position on IP as a Barrier for Musicians

Newcomb: All right. This is Music Preneur: Making Money Making Music, and this is a topic that I have wrestled with over the years.

[1:15]

I’ve come to the conclusion that intellectual property is a huge barrier to musicians monetizing their efforts. It creates a lot of problems for musicians. And I realize that by saying this that a lot of people disagree with me, or maybe I’ve turned them off already.

But you know what? I’m not going to beat around the bush anymore. I tried to deal with this sort of at a back door way, and I say screw it.

[2:02]

The best person that I thought of to tackle this issue and tell us why intellectual property is a hindrance to progress and innovation is Stephan Kinsella. He is the author of Against Intellectual Property as well as a free PDF called Doing Business Without Intellectual Property, and you can get that PDF at musicpreneur.com/resources.

[2:30] IP’s Incompatibility with Traditional Property Concepts

Newcomb: So Stephan, I want to start out with—I guess the major problem with intellectual property is that it really does not fit in with the traditional concept of property as we know it. Do I have that correct?

[2:43]

Kinsella: Yeah, that’s part of the way to look at the problems with it. I am actually a practicing patent attorney, and I’ve done this for 24-something years as my career. I’m also a libertarian, and I’ve always been very interested in property rights and justice and individual rights and also in the creative works—the creations of scientists and philosophers and artists and singers.

It’s not like I’m opposed to these things, but just from what I’ve seen in my career and in my studies of individual rights and property rights and learning a little bit more about the history of how these systems actually work—patent and copyright in particular—I’ve come to the conclusion, and I came to this conclusion twenty-something years ago, that these laws are completely incompatible with justice, with property rights. They should be completely abolished, and they do not achieve the purported functions that most people believe.

[3:59]

People are so used to these ideas—artists are so used to a system that is dominated by and influenced by copyright, especially copyright (we’ll talk about for musicians and for these kind of entrepreneurs, novelists, writers, movie makers, people like that)—that they feel hostile when they hear a criticism of these. They basically think you’re insulting the creative enterprise itself. They think you’re saying they’re not worthy of having property rights—a businessman can have property rights in their land, in their factories and buildings, but artists are not entitled to because they’re not as important. That’s how they take that.

But when you start pointing out all the problems that IP as a practical matter causes the average typical creative person, they start to see yeah, maybe this bargain is not such a good idea.

[5:00] Why Ideas and Patterns Are Not Scarce Property

Newcomb: Well, let’s talk about how intellectual property is not property. The way that I understand it from what you say is that like here I’m holding a pencil right now that I’m taking notes with—this no one else can own this pencil; only I can have possession of it at one particular time—whereas the words that I’m saying right now, well, how can I say that I own those words or how can I say that I own this combination of words? And that’s I guess that’s where we have to start to understand how the concept of intellectual property is problematic.

[5:38]

Kinsella: Yeah, and look, the way I look at it—the way I’ve come to describe it over the years—it’s I sometimes rely upon some of the concepts of basic law (you don’t have to be a lawyer to understand this) and also some of the concepts of Austrian economics. I don’t know if we need to get into Austrian economics here too much—you don’t need to know the works of Hayek or Mises to really understand this; it’s pretty common sensical.

But if you just understand the purpose—like step back and think about man in society, why we have laws, why we have rights, what the function of these things are, what the function of property rights are—you’ll see why patent and copyright are completely incompatible. Just as a patent is like a grant by the state that gives you basically a monopoly over the use of a given invention for roughly 17 years, copyright is a monopoly granted by the state to be the only one who can reproduce and broadcast and copy a creative work like a novel or a song or even software (which was not clear for a while because software has functional aspects, but finally the court said yeah, software is actually subject to both patents and copyrights and trademarks). So it kind of hits all the bases.

[7:02]

The fundamental thing is we live in this world—a world of scarcity. Now by scarcity it’s an economic term; it just means there are things we want to use and we need to use to live: tools, land, food, lumber, things like that, even your body. This just means that only one person can use these things at a time; there’s a possibility of conflict.

But when humans in society see these kind of violent conflicts, some of us prefer to live in a peaceful society or cooperative one where we don’t have these violent conflicts. And the only way to avoid that problem is for people to choose not to do it—which means if there’s a resource or a good that could be used by only one person at a time like your pencil, we have to assign an owner to that thing so we have a rule that everyone in society respects which identifies the person who has the right to use that resource. So that’s just property rights.

[8:00]

So if you wanted to be precise, you wouldn’t say the pencil is property—what you really would say is the pencil is a resource and you have a property right in that resource, or basically you are the owner of that resource. The reason the word property is used is a property sort of means a characteristic right. So when you use a pencil it’s an extension of yourself—you’re closing extent; it helps you extend your influence out into the world.

And for some things that you use all the time it might become very intimately associated with your very being, like your pair of glasses maybe. So you would say these things are a property of that person, and then people start over time calling it his property. And when they say it’s his property what they really mean is this is his characteristic, but they tend to think of property as describing the object itself.

Technically, it’s a resource that’s owned. So the entire property rights system—which is what the whole legal system ultimately is about—simply is there to answer the question: when there’s a dispute between two or more people over who gets to use a type of resource over which there can be disputes, there’s some object, some thing that multiple people want to control (whether it’s someone’s body or someone’s home or someone’s pencil). The property system simply gives us an answer to that question: it says who the owner is, and then we identify the owner and everyone goes away, and the owner gets to use it as he sees fit, and anyone else who interferes with that is then seen as a trespasser or as a criminal.

[9:35]

Okay, so that’s how property rights work. But you’ll notice that that applies only to things that there can be conflict over—these scarce resources. Something like a pattern of information or knowledge that’s in your head is not the same kind of resource.

And this is where a bit of Austrian economics comes into it.

[9:54] Austrian Economics and Human Action Framework

Newcomb: Under the Austrian—I’ll just say one little thing about Austrian economics, not to turn off your guests, although I find Austrian economics fascinating.

[10:06]

Well, I’d like to talk about Austrian economics because if we’re going to tackle this issue then let’s just dive into the woods. First of all, let’s describe Austrian economics and how this more or less leads to this conclusion that we’re talking about.

Kinsella: So Austrian economics has nothing to do with the economics of Austria or Australia—even I think Tom Woods once had a debate about seven, eight years ago with the CEO of AIG, the big insurance company, and about that—it was about the crash or something—and this guy says I don’t know why Woods keeps talking about Austrian economics; Austria has got such a small economy compared to the US. So it’s just one school of economics, like there’s a Chicago School which is associated with Milton Friedman and the monetarists.

There was a number of thinkers and philosophers—they came out of Vienna, Austria, at the turn of the well around the 1900s—and they developed a distinct school of economics. It was started by people like Carl Menger and Friedrich von Wieser and then Ludwig von Mises and Hayek. So it’s just a different type of economics—a little bit different than the Chicago School.

[11:16]

And one strand of that is the school founded and perfected by Mises, and Mises had a unique way of looking at the problems of economics, and that is he calls it human action—human action. And all he did was he carried—in for our purposes we don’t have to get the technical economics but more of the framework of it or the methodology—which is that Mises recognized that humans act, and that there are certain logical implications of that, and that’s how he deduces his body of economic laws.

But what it means to act is for a human being to look around the world and to have some conception of where he is and what the future is—what future is coming—and he anticipates some future that’s coming that will happen without his intervention. In other words, something is coming, something’s going to happen, and I don’t like that—I’m dissatisfied by that—and I am aware enough of the way tools operate, the way my arms can move, the way we can intervene in the physical processes of the world, that I could take an action and change things for the better. So that’s all human action is in general terms.

[12:30]

So if I start feeling hunger, I realize that if I don’t procure some food in about an hour I’m going to be very hungry or maybe I’ll die—I’ll be weak. Right, so that thought frightens me or makes me uncomfortable. So I think well how can I satisfy this? Well, I’ve eaten before so I know I need to eat. Well, how do I eat? I have to find food. Well, how do I get food? I have to maybe make a spear and go spear some fish.

So you think of things like that. Those thoughts are informed by your knowledge of the world, your knowledge of what’s possible, your knowledge of what might be coming, your knowledge of what tools are available that you could possibly manipulate. And then you go out, you make a choice, and you do it.

[13:20]

So you can see there’s two fundamental components to human action—all human action. Number one involves the employment of the scarce resources or means, and number two it’s guided by knowledge. So you have information or knowledge about what you think might happen in the future and about how the laws of physics work—right, how if you sharpen a spear and throw it in the water gravity will take it down and if it hits the fish it will kill the fish and you can catch the fish and you can use fire to cook the fish etc.

So you see all human action—especially successful human action that is an action that achieves what you wanted to achieve—is a combination of knowledge and employment of scarce resources. Now the scarce resources are these things that we talked about before that there could be conflict over those—like only I can eat that fish, only I can use that spear.

So if there’s another person around who wants that spear or wants that fish and he physically takes it from me, I’ve been deprived of the use of it and we might have to fight over it—so that’s violent conflict. Right, so a property rights system emerges among people who prefer cooperation, and it emerges to settle disputes about those resources that we use in action.

[14:39]

But you see that’s only one part of human action. The other part again is the knowledge that you possess. It makes no sense to have property rights for the knowledge because the knowledge is not something people can fight over. My knowledge of how to use a sharp rock to make a spear tip, my knowledge of how to throw the spear at a fish and kill it, is knowledge that anyone else can use at the same time.

There may be thousands of other people who also know how to do this, or they might have learned it from you from observing you. Right, the fact that they copied what you did or learned from what you did doesn’t take anything from you whatsoever—there’s no conflict there. They’re not taking the knowledge from you because you still have that knowledge.

[15:24]

So this is fundamentally why intellectual property rights are incompatible with real property rights—because they attempt to assign property rights in the knowledge part of human action as well as in the scarce resources part of human action. But this literally cannot work.

[15:48] IP as State-Enforced Redistribution, Not True Property

Kinsella: No, look—see, I personally believe as a libertarian that patent law and copyright law should be abolished. I think these laws should not be laws. Okay, so that’s just a normative position.

But I also state as a lawyer and just as an analyst of this kind of a legal system it is literally impossible to have a property right in an idea. So the copyright system doesn’t really grant property rights in ideas—what it really does, and the reason is because all law is backed up by force—that’s physical force. Physical force is always applied to physical things in the world—that is to the scarce resources in the world.

[16:26]

So for example, if a publisher sues a pirate for knocking off one of their author’s books, what they really want is the use of force issued by a state court against the defendant which either takes his money from him (right, and turns it in the form of damages) or maybe puts him in jail—even so puts his body in jail—or issues an order from the court compelling him not to print this book using his printing press. So all of these results are always basically the same as the end result of a dispute over those resources.

So what you could say is that a copyright is really a transfer of money from one person to another—right—so it’s always really a dispute over a resource; it’s just a disguised way of doing it because we call it a property right in ideas. And if you breach that copyright in ideas then the damages would be a payment of money—right—when really we could just reword the copyright law and it could say everyone owns their money unless someone does the following action, in which case they have to give their money to someone else.

So you see it’s just a basis for an excuse to transfer money—it’s really redistribution of wealth which basically socialistic. So it takes property from its legitimate previous natural owner and it transfers it to someone else, just like taxes would do, for example. So in a sense it’s no different than a tax.

[18:02]

Newcomb: Okay, so by having Stephan on this program you’re sort of guessing my political leanings—I tend to be libertarian as well. Tend to be—I am a libertarian. Okay, so I want to play the role of the ignorant plebeian here because I’m more or less am.

[18:25] Addressing Extension of Self and Creator Powerlessness Arguments

Newcomb: You said that—let’s break down what you just said. So you’re saying that the pencil is an extension of myself—it allows me to express myself. Okay, a lot of people will say well that is why we need intellectual property law in the first place—is because well my song that I just wrote, that is an extension of myself. And it is.

[18:57]

But look—and then now let’s take what you said later in your argument: the only way that IP law—how do I want to say this—you sort of assumed that the content creator has absolutely—is completely powerless to do anything to circumvent this. Like you use the example of JK Rowling in another article that you wrote, and in this example like JK Rowling she has—I don’t—I’m trying to find the right words to say this—but you just have this idea that the content creator is absolutely powerless and the only way that they can protect their own content is through this law. But you say that if the content creator takes some pro action they can actually flourish in—in ways that the IP law ensnares them from doing so.

Kinsella: Yep. Well, let’s say—I think I know where you’re heading with some of this. So let’s go back to the pencil for a second. Okay, my argument is not that you have a property right in the pencil because it’s an extension of yourself—what I was trying to explain there is the reason the word property is misused is because we come up with the word—I mean the word propriety just means you’re the proprietor or owner of something—so or who’s the one who properly should be able to use this thing.

So I’m just explaining why the word property has morphed over time and ends up being used to refer to the thing owned itself. The reason you have the right to the pencil is not because it’s an extension of yourself—because you could imagine other extensions of yourself that you don’t have a property right to.

[20:46]

So for example—or characteristics—so let’s say for example you have a certain weight right now—yeah—right—and you have a certain color, maybe you have a certain age—right—and you might have a certain style of laughing. There are many characteristics of you that help define what your nature and identity is, but you don’t own those characteristics. If you owned your weight—I don’t know what it is—but let’s say it’s 173 pounds, that means you would own everyone else in the world that weighs 173 pounds.

So the problem is you can’t own universals or characteristics of things. So it is true the pencil can be considered to be an extension of yourself and that’s why we like to say it’s your property—it’s a property of you. But the reason that you own it is because you have a better claim to it and it’s the type of thing that can be owned.

[21:31]

So one thing I didn’t mention was how we assign these property rights—it’s not just arbitrary. If we want to have a voluntary society that’s cooperative and peaceful and productive and everyone can get along at least possibly, we come up with these property rights to assign the ownership of these possibly disputed things. But those property rights have to be assigned based upon some fair rules—some kind of objective rules that everyone could recognize as being fair.

And those turn out to be only two rules—okay—and creation by the way is not one of them, which I’ll get to. Those two rules are: number one, if it’s an unowned thing just sitting out there—no one’s using it—there is no owner of it, like something in the virgin wilderness—if you are the first person to start using it and do it in a demonstrable way where there’s property boundaries or borders set up around it (you know, you put a fence up around a little hut), now you’ve homesteaded this land—so we call that homesteading or you could call it original appropriation.

[22:36]

So the first way to come to own a resource is to be the first one to own it when it was previously unowned. The only other way to come to own a resource is to acquire one that’s already owned from someone else voluntarily from them—that is by contract or gift or donation. So those are the only two ways to come to own something.

Most people think that creation is mixed in with this or as part or is another way of coming to own resources—like if you make something you should own it. But that—and then they analogize from that—they say well if I make a new horseshoe and I own that new horseshoe, what if I make a new song—like why shouldn’t I own the song? Because you’ve already agreed that people that make things own them.

[23:23]

The problem is that’s actually not true—it is not true that people that make things own them. And let me explain why. Making something just means transforming it or producing a new arrangement of that thing. So to make a horseshoe I need to have some iron or some metal—I also need to have an anvil and a hammer and a fire and some place to make the horseshoes—right—so I already own some kind of resource like iron ore or whatever you’re going to make a horseshoe out of.

Yeah—okay—so I already own this hunk of metal—I don’t know if I found it, I’d mined it myself, or if I purchased it from someone—but I acquired ownership of this ore, and then I used my labor, my effort, my intellect, my ideas, my time to transform it into something that’s better—better for me, maybe better for customers or whatever. When you do that you increase your wealth because the things you have are more valuable now, but you don’t increase your property rights—you don’t add new property rights to the world.

[24:26]

It’s not like you didn’t own the horseshoe before and now you own it—it’s like you own this metal arranged in a certain way and now you still own the metal even though it’s arranged in a different way. So creation is actually not a source of ownership. And this can also be seen if you imagine a thief or an employee—someone who transforms a resource, the raw materials owned by someone else.

So let’s say I sneak into your house at night and I take your stash of iron ore and I make a bunch of horseshoes out of them—does that mean I own the horseshoes? No, because I actually would be a trespasser and you might not have wanted them to become horseshoes—so I might actually owe you damages for trespassing on and ruining your iron ore. Or if you’re an employee working for someone and look—I have a horseshoe factory—I have a thousand employees making horseshoes—I’m just paying them a wage to make the horseshoes; that’s the deal—they’re using my metal, transforming it into horseshoes which I own.

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So just because you transform or create something doesn’t mean you own it. And in the cases where it does, it’s not because you transformed it—it’s because you already owned the raw materials that went into it. So this is the reason why the creator of a song doesn’t own the song—because owning the song would mean owning other people’s bodies basically.

Jeez—you could prevent them from singing the song or typing it out on paper. So that’s one way to look at it.

[26:02] Historical Roots of Copyright in Censorship

Kinsella: The other thing is if you realize the nature and the history of these rules—I mean look, copyright came about when the printing press started emerging and the ruling classes—you know, the religion, the church and the state—started getting nervous. Because before they had control over these scribes—these people that had to hand copy everything one by one—and they had control over this through the church.

[26:15]

But now the printing press started threatening this and started threatening to allow mass-produced works to get out into the hands of the people—even if the church and the state didn’t want them to read this stuff—or it wasn’t the approved version. So for a few centuries the state used various mechanisms to keep control of this—it was a type of thought control or censorship.

They had the Stationers’ Company which is the official printing guild in England, and then when that monopoly—that lasted about a hundred something years—started to expire, by then you had the printing industry had built up but they were all in cahoots with the state because they would only print things the government and the church would allow them to print. And if you had to print a book you had to go through the official printing company to do it.

[27:05]

So you see the government and the church kept control of what books were printed using this mechanism. And when the Stationers’ Company’s monopolies started to expire, Parliament established the Statute of Anne—basically started modern copyright. So copyright comes out of the state and the church’s ability to control what could be printed.

So you can see that the roots of copyright lie in censorship, and you can see that it operates this way today. Imagine you’re some artist and you want—you rewrite a new poem, you make a new painting, you photograph a certain scene—even if you photograph it independently and originally—but you stand in the same location that some other photographer did—you take a picture of the same natural items—you could be sued for copyright infringement.

[28:09]

If you post a song on YouTube someone can send a DMCA takedown notice claiming that they own a copyright in some aspect of it and they will be taken down. So if you have a documentary—you want to produce a documentary—it’s almost impossible to do documentaries now without stripping them of lots of content because you can’t get permission from people that have bits and pieces of things you wanted to use in your documentary. So there’s a tremendous hampering of artistic freedom under the copyright system.

[28:49] Boldrin and Levine’s “Against Intellectual Monopoly”

Newcomb: One of one resource that I found very helpful was Against Intellectual Monopoly by Boldrin and Levine—a couple of professors I believe in St. Louis—is it?

[29:01]

Yes—and from what I understand they set out to disprove what you’re saying right now and they were going to I guess prove that intellectual property—the whole concept of intellectual property—is legitimate. And they in their studies—their research—they ended up completely changing course, completely disagreeing with themselves what they had at the outset, and wrote this book called Against Intellectual Monopoly. Do I have that right?

Kinsella: Yeah, that’s right. Let me put this—their work—into context. The way that some of us—probably yourself and me—would approach these type of issues is from more of a rights-based or a principled approach.

[29:40]

So we sometimes talk about what natural human rights are, and this is connected with property rights. And so most of the argument I’ve given is practical, but that’s because property is a practical institution. But we’re explaining basically that a copyright or a patent basically violates someone’s rights—because a copyright prevents me from using my property as I see fit; a patent prevents me from using my property as I see fit.

So that’s a violation of my natural right to property—my natural ownership of my body and myself. That’s one way to look at it. Okay—the prevailing way that most people nowadays look at things is more pragmatic or utilitarian or consequentialist you could say.

[30:27]

Basically people look at the effects of laws and they say well—I mean you and I would say the purpose of law is to do justice and you do justice by protecting people’s rights—you protect people’s rights by identifying what those rights are and all rights are property rights and they should be identified according to the first user principle and contract like I mentioned earlier. So that’s sort of the libertarian analytical approach to this.

But nowadays everything is sort of all soupy and not as precise—people say well we need a law here because we need this effect. So people say well we don’t have enough stimulation of arts so therefore we need the government to have the National Endowment for the Arts and take some money from some people in the form of taxes and then have a government agency that distributes its money to needy artists—right—who otherwise would not have enough money to engage in their projects.

[31:15]

So the argument there is there’s some optimal amount of artistic production in society and we’re below that optimum and the government can use its laws to tweak things to achieve this optimal result. And a similar argument is used nowadays for copyright—even though copyright arose as a method of censorship and thought control—now its defenders who are entrenched in various industries—right—they use these utilitarian justifications.

And so the argument for copyright would be that if you don’t have copyright then it would be hard for some artists to make money because someone could just knock off their work—it would be hard for me to license my music—right—without copyright. Now Boldrin and Levine approach it from that point of view—they’re just utilitarians who look at the law like economists do and they say does this law have the optimal effects that it claims or does it not?

[32:15]

And they were under the assumption—like everyone else is—that you need copyright and patent—they’re like a normal part of a capitalist Western property rights system—that you need that to stimulate the arts and innovation—maybe we can improve it, maybe we can tweak it—but let’s just do a study; let’s see—we should be able to prove that the existence of copyright and patent have benefited society enormously—we should be able to show this.

So they started doing empirical studies—looking for evidence, looking for example, looking for data—and over time they both realized oh my god—patent, copyright—actually deter innovation and they distort the cultural fields and they hamper innovation and they reduce the content and they cause bullying and they extract money from consumers and XYZ. So they basically concluded in their book that copyright and patents should basically—they’re not quite as radical libertarians as you and I are—but they ultimately conclude that patent and copyright do not do what they claim to do and that we’d be better off without them.

[33:32] Practical Advice for Musicians in the Current System

Newcomb: Well, we mentioned earlier JK Rowling and I want to talk a little bit about practical application of how musicians—MusicPreneurs—can work within the system in which we are currently.

[33:46]

And I was just about to say something—well let’s get—well I could take off from what you just said though—I like your description of MusicPreneur because it recognizes the entrepreneurial aspect—right—and what—okay I got it—what I was saying is that people who are still listening to this—they’re—I’m gonna assume that you’re into what we’re saying—may not totally agree quite yet—may you probably want to listen to this again—I’m gonna have several resources for you to read more about it.

But I’m gonna assume that people still listening to this—they want to—they’re here because they want to make some money with their music. And I want to talk about how can we work within the system that we’re currently in—yeah—because copyright—it’s good if you are a major publishing source—not so good if you’re an independent.

[34:40]

So what are some avenues that people can pursue so that they can ensure maximum exposure for their music but at the same time protect their integrity?

Kinsella: Yeah, and here’s where some of the advice and things I’ve seen and come up with—you know—half of it as my lawyer hat and what I’ve seen assisting clients and talking to people who are creators of different types. We have—we have two separate—patents and copyright—let’s stick with copyright here. The way you respond to the patent system is different than the way you respond to the copyright system.

My view is that patents damage us materially more than copyrights do—my estimate is patents probably cost us a trillion dollars or more a year in lost innovation and cost on a worldwide basis. Copyrights don’t cause as much say measurable material harm but I think copyright is even worse than patents because number one the terms last a lot longer—they last over a hundred years in most cases—and it’s being used—it’s used by copyright bullies and by states to restrict like Internet freedom.

[36:12]

If you remember SOPA almost passed a couple years ago and it’s probably gonna pass in some form eventually—piecemeal form—in fact there was the treaty that was the TPP that Trump is apparently against—it Hillary claimed to be against at the last minute—had some SOPA-like provisions in it which would have put them into a treaty with countries that have amounted to forty percent of the world so far.

SOPA was the Stop Online Piracy Act—if that would have been a federal law that made it much easier for companies to basically kick you off the internet for life as a punishment for engaging in piracy—so it would basically restrict Internet freedom or take people’s websites down if there’s an allegation of copyright infringement. So basically in the name of copyright—which is allegedly a property right of creators—you have this being used as an excuse by the state to increase state control and big corporate control of the internet and restrict Internet freedom—which is very dangerous of course.

[37:25]

So the point is copyright—the good thing about copyright is that you don’t have to participate in the system—you do get a copyright automatically—you can’t help it—under federal law and international law as soon as you produce any kind of creative work you have a copyright. But you don’t have to register it, you don’t have to enforce it, and in fact you can use Creative Commons licenses or other mechanisms. In the field of software you can use the software-type licenses and you can participate in a system of open sourcing things.

And I really think—and the other thing you can do is try not to assign your copyrights away to a music studio or one of these publishers—because then you lose control of it—okay—and then they’re gonna use it like bullies and they’re gonna charge crazy prices for your book—they’re gonna make it hard for your name to get out there because piracy is going to be more limited.

[38:22]

So unless you’re really in it solely for the money right now and you have the capacity to make so much money as a legit—as a regular sort of mainstream artist—that even getting only 15% of the royalties—because the movie and the music studios and the book publishers are going to take the bulk of it—right—then I think you’re better off being independent. So my next book I’m going to self-publish—I’m not gonna go to a publisher—because they’re gonna—it would delay me by a year—they’re gonna insist on some changes which I don’t want to make—right—and then they’re gonna publish it for way higher price than I want to—they’re not going to consent to me putting a free PDF online let’s say for marketing purposes or to get my name out there.

There’s just so much liberty and freedom that you have—and especially with the technology now—right—I mean we all heard stories of these guys that are publishing—well if you talk about music itself of course I think we all know by now that a lot of musicians make their money from gigs—right—from concerts. But who’s gonna pay you to do a gig or for a concert if they’ve never heard of you—I mean it’s gonna be a smaller deal.

[39:32]

So I mean most concerts that go to—the musicians have a stack of CDs and yeah they’re selling them—I don’t think they’re making their money off the CD—sometimes they give them away—they want people to know their music—right. So I think it was Cory Doctorow—a science fiction author—who said the real danger that a budding artist faces is not piracy—it’s obscurity.

So it just makes no sense to try to restrict a budding fanbase. So of course these are practical things that you can do—you could also be careful not to assign away your works unknowingly—and then there are practical things you can do—you can use open source music as sort of backgrounds in your podcasts and things like that instead of using a 20-second cut from a popular artist—risking getting shut down or sued by their studio etc.

[40:29]

Newcomb: Yeah—the music that I use for this podcast I just—I know the guy that produced it and I just sent him a message and said hey can I use your song for my podcast—he said sure no problem.

[40:48] Public Domain, Future Abundance, and Distortions

Newcomb: Well you know one interesting thought experiment—it’s a little bit on a tangent here—but it’s a present time you can just use public domain work—which is basically work that’s say more than 70 years old—so a lot of times people use old cartoons and old advertisements and old book manuscripts and classical music from 100 plus years ago because they know that that’s safe—right.

[41:05]

Right—in a way this distorts the culture because we have the last 50 years worth of stuff is like not on the shelf of the tools you can use—so it distorts the culture a little bit. But imagine the world in ten thousand years—okay—let’s just go way into the future. The body—the body of human artistic output that is going to exist on Peta drives—you know—in people’s pockets—it’s gonna be immense.

And even if we still have copyright law which blocks the last 70 years—70 years of music—you’re gonna have 10,000 more years of great music to draw from—so like 99.9% of all human artistic output would be available in the public domain. And so it won’t be as big of a barrier to creative freedom in 10,000 years—right—just the fraction of new stuff will be so much smaller.

[42:00]

Newcomb: You know when I started this business Music Preneur I registered the word Music Preneur along with the tag line “Making Money Making Music” and I didn’t do that because I wanted to prevent anyone else from using that word—if anything the more people that use it the better it is for me because that—the name of my business—and more brand recognition the better as far as I’m concerned.

But the reason that I registered it and register—put in the paperwork in July—here it is January—still haven’t heard from the government—they move at their own special speed—but that’s another story—but the reason that I did it is because I didn’t want someone else to profit off of my success. And what I mean by that is let’s say that this business takes off and it’s worth five million dollars two years from now three years from now whatever—someone could register the word Music Preneur and then contact me and say hey you can’t use that word anymore—if you want to use it you have to pay me seventy thousand dollars a year or a month or something.

[42:59]

Kinsella: Yes—and now you’re getting to—when you say register you’re talking about trademark—which is yet another type of intellectual property right which we haven’t even touched on. Well maybe—maybe we’ll talk about that in the future—yeah we can. And I can just say briefly here that I’m opposed to trademark as well but for other reasons.

I think in today’s climate it makes total sense to register your trademark—but again what you can do with that is trademark—it’s a little bit different than copyright and patent—you don’t have to enforce a patent or a copyright but trademark has the feature where if you don’t enforce it then you could lose it over time. And then again you’re facing the danger that you think you might face before—which is someone else might register that as a trademark and then prevent you from using your own name.

[43:43]

So what you can do is trademark it and then whenever you see someone else using it you just send them a letter and you say you’re using my trademark—I’m happy to give you permission to do so for a dollar a year—you know—or some marginal fee—so that you have an official license—they recognize your trademark but they’re in the clear—you’re not threatening them—and you keep your trademark alive that way. So there are little tips and tricks like that that you can do to navigate within the existing system—right.

[44:18] Property Philosophy: Locke vs. Hobbes, and IP Origins

Newcomb: Well you know you’re the Austrian system of economics and I know I know that this is a music podcast but you know we’re entrepreneurs too—so you have to understand the way things work with economics as well—so that’s why I want to—that’s why I’m not bashful about having Stephan Kinsella on here too because you just have to understand the world if you want to be an entrepreneur.

[44:48]

But the system of property that you’re describing that’s very much in the tradition of John Locke versus like a Hobbes—what’s it—Thomas Hobbes. So where do you think the philosophy behind this intellectual property comes from—is not definitely not John Locke and the founding of America—that’s type of—where does it have its foundation?

Kinsella: Well I think the historical foundation is—in for copyright—was really in this thought-control censorship and in patents it was more protectionism—like the king granting a monopoly to one of his cronies in a given town—like the only guy who could export cheap skins or something—so he just did that to get loyalty from this guy and maybe the guy would give him kickbacks—help him collect taxes—things like that.

But something that Boldrin and Levine were saying—they said that England had these copyright laws but then English/British authors would sell their books in the US or in the colonies where there was no law and they would flourish—whereas in Britain they didn’t do as well.

[45:48]

Well yeah—what happened was—well now we have more of an internationalist system where we have these treaties like the Berne Convention—so all these countries—most of the countries in the world—agree to abide by certain minimum standards—but which is how the US and the copyright—the music industry—Hollywood and the software industry have sort of—in the end the pharmaceutical industry especially—have exported our copyright and patent laws to the rest of the world for the benefit of big American corporations.

But in the beginning—in the beginning of the Industrial Revolution—in the beginning of the United States—we had a copyright and patent system but there were no international treaties—and so we had copyright here but it didn’t extend to foreign authors. So some foreign author—Charles Dickens—his book could be knocked off in the US because he was a foreign author—but it turned out that they did better in markets over here than local authors did because their works were easy to knock off and spread and they could become popular and they gave speaking tours and things like that.

[46:57]

So yeah—and musicians these days—they shouldn’t be worried about people knocking off their music—it’s if anything it’s help—it helps bolster their brand—it helps them sell tickets. I would look at it like this—you know—in a copyright-free world people can copy your stuff without your permission—but they can do that now. I think there is piracy going on right—so we’ve reached a point where it’s not going to ever get harder to copy things—the Internet’s the world’s biggest copying machine and it’s only gonna get easier from here on out to copy.

So authors of works that are easy to copy—someone who makes a movie, someone who does photography, a painting, writes novels—whatever—they’re—they face—they face the fact that it’s easy for people to copy what they’re doing—so that’s a fact—no matter how draconian we make the laws trying to make a few examples out of the few people that we can catch—that’s happening. So they have to face that reality already.

[48:02]

You know I would say that in—in a world—look—artists thrive on freedom—they’re about freedom—they should be for freedom—they should be for justice—right—and just as they have learned from others and always will learn from others and borrow from others—they’re part of an incremental process—they’ve added their small piece to advance whatever they’re doing in their field—but they stand on the shoulders of others and others are gonna stand on their shoulders—this is part of the—you know—the way the world works.

[48:35] Entrepreneurship, Competition, and Profit in a Copyable World

Kinsella: I would also say this—look—an entrepreneur is someone who sees some kind of gap in the market or some kind of way to make money—he invests his time and resources hoping to make a profit. Now in a sense this is an economics insight—profit is an unnatural thing—in other words the more profit you’re making the more you’re going to attract competitors and they’re gonna come in and start competing with you and whittle your profit away down to basically the natural rate of interest in society.

[49:02]

So profit is always an unnatural thing that happens because an entrepreneur spots some anomaly in the market that he can temporarily exploit. So every entrepreneur in the world faces the prospect of competition—they just try to become better or have a better reputation or get there first.

So as a simple example if you know if I notice there’s this craze of taco restaurants spreading around the country—right—like up until now it’s been pizza and hamburgers—but notice that you know hey Arizona they really like those tacos there—so I start a little chain of taco restaurants in—in Texas let’s say—and they’re popular—now I might be the first one and I can charge a lot for the tacos at first—but soon you know someone’s down the street’s gonna—who’s looking for a way to park their money or something to do—they’re gonna say well I’ll start Joe’s Taco Stand—I’ll start competing with this guy—and they start taking some of the business away.

So it’s only a matter of time before there’s lots of them and it’s harder for the original guy to make the same profit he used to—so he’s got to keep innovating or maybe he goes out of business eventually—right. So you have McDonald’s and Burger King in the hamburger industry and you have Taco Bell and Taco Cabana in the taco industry.

[50:15]

The point is every entrepreneur faces the challenge of figuring out how to make a profit even though he’s going to eventually face competition. So in abstract terms that’s exactly the situation of some musician who wants to profit from their work—the only difference is one of degree not of kind—that is it seems to them like it’s easier for people to compete because their product is purely digital and easy to copy—unlike a taco stand where you have to buy a building and it might take a few years to get some investors and build the—you know—hire some employees and start making competing tacos—so it’s not as easy to compete in certain fields where the key aspect of the product is an easily copyable pattern of information on a disc.

And as I said with the internet and with digital technology and with storage becoming cheaper and cheaper and cheaper—copying is just very very easy now—right. So what that means is it’s simply easier for people to compete with you in certain fields if you have a certain business model.

[51:20]

So all this means is it’s up to the musical entrepreneur to recognize this and to try to find a way to make a profit despite the fact that he’s going to have competition. So you know you can—you can sing at a concert and that’s not something anyone else can do—if you’re famous for a given—with a given group of fans—you are the only one they want to hear—right—so you can charge—you could charge a reasonable amount for a concert or for a bar mitzvah or to—to make a song for someone you know for their kid’s birthday—I don’t know—help them do a music video—like Rebecca Black—yeah good luck—yeah.

So the point is it’s not the job of the law and it’s not the job of economists either to tell entrepreneurs how to make money—that’s the entrepreneur’s job—they have to be aware of how different business models can be easily copied or competed with and take that into account—and some business models might not be viable because they’re just too hard to maintain a profit—but that’s always been true in human history.

[52:31] Closing Thoughts: Future of IP in 10 Years

Newcomb: Well Stephan we’re running short on time and but I want to close with just a couple of thoughts from you—we you mentioned earlier ten thousand years—imagine the world ten thousand years from now—this may be a little difficult to do that—but I’d like to imagine you’re well versed in this and judging on what you’ve seen in the past—where do you see the world in ten years from now in the realm of intellectual property?

[52:58]

Kinsella: I don’t see any statutory or legal progress that’s significant in patents or copyrights coming anytime soon—and that’s because the interests are so entrenched. But the good thing is it’s becoming easier and easier to get around these laws. So in the field of copyright number one like I said it’s getting easier and easier to pirate—and that is putting a lot of pressure on publishers to act more like they would have to act in a free market anyway.

It’s also getting easier to encrypt things so that you’re not going to be caught as easily—right—to use VPNs for your dial-up so that you don’t get caught torrenting as easily. And also the spread of—in the software field we saw this earlier—we saw that I’m not really—I don’t really know what percentage—but I would guess maybe half of the software in the US let’s say is probably generated by some kind of open model—it’s not trivial—it’s a lot—it could be even more than half.

[54:03]

That has led to the widespread sort of basically doing an end run around copyright—without copyright the model would still be different—you wouldn’t need a license at all—but you’re emulating more what a copyright-free system would look like. Now in the field of books and music I think you’re seeing in the last 10 or 15 years a similar phenomena slowly starting to happen with the increasing use of Creative Commons to sort of partly open up your work—surf photographers, people’s paintings you know—and the rise of self-publishing which helps get around this—the publishing industry and the gatekeepers—which really are a relic of the old censorship and copyright system.

So I think that the publishing industries are going to start kind of crumbling more and more and you’re gonna have more and more independent artists—so that’s—I see copyright becoming more and more irrelevant because fewer people choose to use it and more people can get around it and evade it.

[55:00]

Newcomb: I put a note saying “forcing the establishment to act like entrepreneurs”—I love that.

[55:06] Episode Wrap-Up and Resources

Newcomb: All right—Stephan—is it stephankinsella.com is the website—great—read if you are interested at all in what he said—I promised that I didn’t get any—I didn’t understand more than 40%—I have to listen to this again myself—so it’s not something that you can just listen to and understand in one take—it takes in some cases many many years to really grasp what we’re talking about here.

[55:37]

So Stephan I want to say thank you for being on the show—hopefully we can do it again if people have some questions that they wanted some clarification on—but really appreciate it—thanks again.

Kinsella: You’re welcome—happy to—good luck with the show.

[55:59]

Newcomb: The show notes for this episode can be found at musicpreneur.com/IP—very easy to remember—musicpreneur.com/IP—it’s going to have an outline of the conversation with Stephan Kinsella and myself and I’m also going to make the PDF Doing Business Without Intellectual Property available right there on that show notes page.

So I hope you enjoyed it—I hope that it at least gave you a bit of a balanced perspective on this topic—I learned quite a bit just listening to Stephan in this interview and I had—and I’ve studied this topic for several years now—so there is always something to learn.

[56:44]

And you know what—if you have questions—if you need clarification on something that Stephan said—send me an email—send him an email—he responds to—he responds to every email I’ve sent him—so I don’t see any reason why he wouldn’t respond to you—I’ll just say that you heard his interview on this podcast and he is more than happy to share his knowledge and provide any clarification.

So I don’t know if—if there’s enough questions then maybe we can have him back on and do a little Q&A on the topic of intellectual property—so that does it for today—I’ve got an exciting announcement that I’m going to share on this Friday’s episode—it’s not quite ready for public consumption yet—but come this Friday it’s going to be ready to go—and it involves a free ebook for you and even an opportunity for you to make a little money as an affiliate with a product—so this is James Newcomb signing off—thank you for listening and look forward to seeing you next time.

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Ralph Raico, R.I.P.

The great libertarian scholar Ralph Raico died last month (Dec. 13, 2016). 1

Ralph and I were friends for the last 20 years. I first met Ralph when I started attending Mises Institute events when I was a young lawyer, in the mid-1990s. 2 For many years, he was a fixture at the Mises Institute events I attended. We talked, had lunches, went to dinners together for years. I was at the Mises Institute event in the late 90s, if I recall correctly, that Objectivist George Reisman attended, fresh from his excommunication from the Ayn Rand Institute, where Reisman and Ralph, long-estranged by internecine libertarian squabbles, were reunited and rekindled their friendship. It was a pleasure to see, especially for me, as a former Randian of sorts myself.

In the last few years, Ralph was less mobile, and we would talk on occasion by email, or on the phone. He was supportive of the founding of Hans-Hermann Hoppe’s Property and Freedom Society PFS in 2006, with which I’ve also been involved since its inception, and he was a Senior Fellow at the Mises Institute for many years. [continue reading…]

  1. For other tributes to Ralph, see e.g. Jeff Tucker, Ralph Raico’s Liberal Mind and Spirit; Mark Thornton, True Liberalism: A Personal Reflection in Honor of Ralph Raico; Tom Woods show, Ep. 816 Liberty Lost a Great Historian in 2016; and Professor Hoppe’s remarks in the introductory portion of PFP168 | Sean Gabb, “The Value of the Greek and Roman Classics” (PFS 2017). []
  2. See How I Became A Libertarian, December 18, 2002, LewRockwell.com (published as “Being a Libertarian” in I Chose Liberty: Autobiographies of Contemporary Libertarians (compiled by Walter Block; Mises Institute 2010.) []
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Related:

Rothbard, in The Ethics of Liberty, writes of the disastrous consequences of the fallacious Marxian labor theory of value:

“I am convinced, however, that the real motor for social and political change in our time has been a moral indignation arising from the fallacious theory of surplus value: that the capitalists have stolen the rightful property of the workers, and therefore that existing titles to accumulated capital are unjust. Given this hypothesis, the remainder of the impetus for both Marxism and anarchosyndicalism follow quite logically. From an apprehension of what appears to be monstrous injustice flows the call for “expropriation of the expropriators,” and, in both cases, for some form of “reversion” of the ownership and the control of the property to the workers.[23] Their arguments cannot be successfully countered by the maxims of utilitarian economics or philosophy, but only by dealing forthrightly with the moral problem, with the problem of the justice or injustice of various claims to property.” 1

Rothbard also quite rightly rejected the idea that property titles are to be overturned if we cannot trace title back to Adam, that is, if there is any taint in the “chain of title”—what Jeff Tucker has referred to as “scrupulosity”. 2 As Rothbard wrote in an important addendum to a seminal 1974 paper:

“It might be charged that our theory of justice in property titles is deficient because in the real world most landed (and even other) property has a past history so tangled that it becomes impossible to identify who or what has committed coercion and therefore who the current just owner may be. But the point of the “homestead principle” is that if we don’t know what crimes have been committed in acquiring the property in the past, or if we don’t know the victims or their heirs, then the current owner becomes the legitimate and just owner on homestead grounds. In short, if Jones owns a piece of land at the present time, and we don’t know what crimes were committed to arrive at the current title, then Jones, as the current owner, becomes as fully legitimate a property owner of this land as he does over his own person. Overthrow of existing property title only becomes legitimate if the victims or their heirs can present an authenticated, demonstrable, and specific claim to the property. Failing such conditions, existing landowners possess a fully moral right to their property.” 3

[continue reading…]

  1. PDF and epub; quote from ch. 9, Property and Criminality, text included in chs. 6-9 excerpt here. []
  2. See Tucker, Scrupulosity and the Condemnation of Every Existing Business, archived comments here; discussed in my post Vulgarism, Left-libertarianism, Taco Bell, and “Power”; see also my posts Is Macy’s Part of the State? A Critique of Left Deviationists and The Walmart Question, or, the Unsupported Assertions of Left-Libertarianism (Apr. 26, 2009) (archived comments). []
  3. Justice and Property Rights: Rothbard on Scarcity, Property, Contracts…, Libertarian Standard (Nov. 19, 2010); see also Mises, Rothbard, and Hoppe on the “Original Sin” in the Distribution of Property Rights. []
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KOL216 | Morehouse Interview: Why Intellectual Property Sucks

Kinsella on Liberty Podcast, Episode 216.

I was a guest recently on Isaac Morehouse’s podcast, “Why Intellectual Property Sucks, with Stephan Kinsella” (Oct. 10, 2016), discussing intellectual property and related issues. Isaac’s description below, along with the transcript.

Is intellectual property law the foundation of an innovative society? Or a racket set up to protect entrenched businesses from competition? Stephan Kinsella joins the show this week to break down intellectual property law.

Stephan is a practicing patent attorney, a libertarian writer and speaker, Director of the Center for the Study of Innovative Freedom (C4SIF), and Founding and Executive Editor of Libertarian Papers.

He is one of the clearest and most compelling thinkers on intellectual property law.

We cover the historical context of IP law, the modern day consequences of copyright and patent monopolies, the flaws in common arguments for intellectual property laws, and more. [continue reading…]

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KOL215 | Latter-Day Liberty Podcast: Intellectual Property

Kinsella on Liberty Podcast, Episode 215. www.stephankinsella.com/kinsella-on-liberty-podcast/
I was a guest recently on the Latter-Day Liberty podcast discussing intellectual property and related issues. Host: Mat Kent.

 

Ep. 19 Intellectual Property

How could a true libertarian claim to be against intellectual property? Aren’t property rights central to the principles of liberty? Stephan Kinsella joins us to discuss the case against IP and why, as libertarians, we should oppose it.

About the Guest:

Stephan Kinsella is a practicing patent attorney, a libertarian writer and speaker, Director of the Center for the Study of Innovative Freedom (C4SIF), and Founding and Executive Editor of Libertarian Papers.

Guest’s Book:

Against Intellectual Property

Guest’s Links:

stephankinsella.com
Libertarian Papers
Center for the Study of Innovative Freedom

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Disinvited From Cato

[Update: see various biographical pieces on my publications page, including Alan D. Bergman, Adopting Liberty: The Stephan Kinsella Story (2025).]

Here comes a lot of background, just to lead up to a few final paragraphs that get to what I want to say.

As I’ve recounted before, 1 I started my legal vocation and libertarian avocation 2 around the same time, almost twenty-five years ago, in 1992. That year, I started practicing law, and also published my first scholarly libertarian article. 3 In 1994 my wife and I moved from Houston to Philadelphia for a few years, and around that time I started attending Mises Institute and other libertarian conferences. The contacts I was making with various libertarian thinkers and organizations started to increase, partly because of the rise of email and then the Internet around that time. At the time, I would devour everything libertarian-related that I could get my hands onto—The Freeman from FEE; Liberty magazine; Reason magazine; The Free Market, the Journal of Libertarian Studies, and the Review of Austrian Economics from the Mises Institute; Cato Journal; Reason Papers; Objectivity; Jeffrey Friedman’s Critical Review; various other newsletters and journals; and so on. In college I would go to the LSU library and photocopy old Ayn Rand related newsletters. In grad school in London, 1991–92, I found a copy of Rothbard’s Ethics of Liberty in the University of London library. It was then out of print and hard to find. So I paid something like 10p a page to photocopy it by hand, vellum bound it, and for years that was my main marked-up copy of that classic text, until the 1998 edition was released by the Mises Institute with an amazing introduction by Hans-Hermann Hoppe. 4

Yeah, I was that kind of geek. Copying Ayn Rand newsletters and Rothbard books from college libraries. But I somehow got a normal woman to marry me anyhow.

From the late 1980s to the mid 1990s, I talked with a large number of libertarian thinkers, by email, phone, in person, or even by regular snail mail. As I noted in The Genesis of Estoppel: My Libertarian Rights Theory, in law school I had become fascinated by Hoppe’s “argumentation ethics” defense of libertarian rights. This led to my exploring related material by a number of thinkers, including libertarians like Tibor Machan and Roger Pilon. 5 Hoppe had developed his argumentation ethics defense of libertarian rights, in part based on the work of his PhD advisor and mentor, the brilliant and famous (and socialist) German philosopher Jürgen Habermas, and fellow German philosopher Karl-Otto Apel, along with some insights from Rothbard and Mises, plus some original insights, and a libertarian spin, by Hoppe. It was an original and brilliant new spin on libertarian rights theory that Rothbard enthusiastically adopted. Rothbard became the mentor, Hoppe his protege and intellectual colleague from the mid-1980s to Rothbard’s death in 1995. [continue reading…]

  1.  How I Became A LibertarianThe Genesis of Estoppel: My Libertarian Rights TheoryMy Failed Libertarian Speaking Hiatus; Memories of Mises Institute and Other Events, 1988–2015. []
  2. See my post, Career Advice by North, discussing the distinction and interplay between career and calling, vocation and avocation. []
  3.  Estoppel: A New Justification for Individual Rights, published in Reason Papers No. 17 (Fall 1992). []
  4. See Murray N. Rothbard and the Ethics of Liberty, Introduction to Murray N. Rothbard, The Ethics of Liberty (New York: New York University Press, 1998) . []
  5.  See links in “Argumentation Ethics and Liberty: A Concise Guide”; The Genesis of Estoppel: My Libertarian Rights Theory: namely: Pilon, “A Theory of Rights: Toward Limited Government“; Gewirth, “The Basis and Content of Human Rights“; Pilon, “Ordering Rights Consistently: Or, What We Do and Do Not Have Rights To.” []
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The Undeniable Morality of Capitalism

Note: An updated and revised version of this article is included as chap. 22 of Legal Foundations of a Free Society (Houston: Papinian Press, 2023). Text below.

Re Goldberg’s cited article, it’s in New Individualist Review

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Stephan Kinsella, “The Undeniable Morality of Capitalism” (pdf; text version), St. Mary’s L. J. 25, no. 4 (1994): 1419–47  (review essay of Hans-Hermann Hoppe, The Economics and Ethics of Private Property (1993)). Revised version to be included in Legal Foundations of a Free Society (2023).

[Update: Re Rand and Kant: Objectivist Round-up, April 2025: “2. Ayn Rand Institute (ARI) philosopher Greg Salmieri is asked how much of Kant Rand read.  He says he doesn’t know because we don’t have any books by Kant that she “marked up.”  Salmieri says that Rand likely learned a lot about Kant from Peikoff and she may have studied the various arguments in the Critique of Pure Reason with him.  Brook asks Salmieri about Rand’s take on Kant and he says it’s correct albeit on a high level.”]

Text below (not yet edited; some blockquotes and italics missing)

22

The Undeniable Morality of Capitalism

Originally published in 1994, this is one of my first scholarly articles.* As noted in “How I Became a Libertarian” (ch. 1), I sent this article to Hoppe and soon after met him and others at the Mises Institute. I have made only minimal revisions to the original piece, except for deleting the initial section “Criticisms,” since, in retrospect, these criticisms now seem silly and trivial.

 

*    Stephan Kinsella, “The Undeniable Morality of Capitalism,” St. Mary’s L. J. 25, no. 4 (1994): 1419–47, a review essay of Hans-Hermann Hoppe, The Economics and Ethics of Private Property (Boston/Dordrecht/London, Kluwer Academic Publishers, 1993). In this chapter I will cite to the most recent edition, The Economics and Ethics of Private Property: Studies in Political Economy and Philosophy (Auburn, Ala.: Mises Institute, 2006 [1993]; www.hanshoppe.com/eepp); hereinafter “EEPP.”

†   In the original article, I wrote that it was unfortunate that Hoppe’s article “In Defense of Extreme Rationalism” was not included in EEPP. See Hoppe, “In Defense of Extreme Rationalism: Thoughts on Donald McCloskey’s The Rhetoric of Economics,” Rev. Austrian Econ. 3, no. 1 (1989; https://mises.org/library/defense-extreme-rationalism-thoughts-donald-mccloskys-rhetoric-economics): 179–214. This has now been remedied, as this article was later published in Hans-Hermann Hoppe, The Great Fiction: Property, Economy, Society, and the Politics of Decline (Second Expanded Edition, Mises Institute, 2021; www.hanshoppe.com/tgf).

 

 

  1. Introduction 586
  2. Individual Rights 588
  3. The Reception of Hoppe’s Ideas 588
  4. Argumentation Ethics 589
  5. Estoppel and Directions for Further Inquiry 591
  6. Remaining Questions—Rights of Fetuses, Babies, and Defective
    Humans 594
  7. Hoppe, Rothbard, Rand, and
    Classical Natural Rights Theory 595
  8. Hoppe’s Value-Free (?) Ethics 597
  9. Hoppe’s Conception of “Rights” 597
  10. Habermas’s and Apel’s “Discourse Ethics” and Gewirth’s and Pilon’s
    “Principle of Generic Consistency” 598

III. Epistemology                                   601

  1. The Application of Praxeology
    to Epistemology and Ethics 601
  2. Hoppe and Kant Versus Rand 603
  3. A Priori Truths 606
  4. Economics 607
  5. Public Goods Theory and the
    Production of Security 607
  6. The Economics and Sociology
    of Taxation 608
  7. Banking, Nation States, and
    International Politics 611
  8. Marxism Reformed by Praxeology 613
  9. Mises Versus Keynes 614
  10. Conclusion 614

 

 

I. INTRODUCTION

If Professor Hans-Hermann Hoppe’s books and articles would come already-underlined and highlighted, it would save readers a lot of time. Or at least each book should come with a free pen attached. For when I follow my usual habit of underlining, circling, checking, starring, or highlighting important insights in the books I read, I find that my copies of Hoppe’s books start to look as if a two-year-old with a crayon had gotten hold of them.

In 1989, Hoppe published A Theory of Socialism and Capitalism, in my eyes one of the most important books of the decade for its analysis of capitalism, socialism, and property rights, focus on scarcity in property and economic theory, and its revolutionary “argumentation ethic” defense of individual rights.[1] Over the past few years, Hoppe has produced a significant assortment of articles elaborating on his argumentation ethic and the epistemology that underlies it, as well as on his impressive economic writings. His new book, The Economics and Ethics of Private Property, is a collection of almost all of these related writings (not counting a large number of writings published previously in German). This may come as a disappointment to some, who, like me, were expecting a new treatise, building upon the prior one. The book is significant, nonetheless, for drawing together material previously published in such varied sources as Liberty magazine, the Journal of Libertarian Studies, the Review of Austrian Economics, Ratio, and others.[2]

II. INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS

A. The Reception of Hoppe’s Ideas

This book is fascinating, stimulating, provocative, and ground-breaking. In the September 1988 issue of Liberty, Hoppe published “The Ultimate Justification of the Private Property Ethic.” This article gave rise to a symposium, “Breakthrough or Buncombe?”, published in the November 1988 issue of Liberty, containing the critical comments of ten commentators, including Murray Rothbard, Tibor Machan, David Friedman, Leland Yeager, David Gordon, Douglas Rasmussen, David Ramsay Steele, Timothy Virkkala, and others.

To my surprise, almost all of these libertarian commentators were unimpressed by, if not downright hostile to, Hoppe’s argument. Only Murray Rothbard gave Hoppe’s thesis wholehearted endorsement and recognized its validity and significance:

In a dazzling breakthrough for political philosophy in general and for libertarianism in particular, he has managed to transcend the famous is/ought, fact/value dichotomy that has plagued philosophy since the days of the scholastics, and that had brought modern libertarianism into a tiresome deadlock. Not only that: Hans Hoppe has managed to establish the case for anarcho-capitalist-Lockean rights in an unprecedentedly hard-core manner, one that makes my own natural law/natural rights position seem almost wimpy in comparison.[3]

Why Hoppe’s ideas, which are such an important advance in political and libertarian thought, have failed to cause more excitement or gain more adherents than they have is baffling, but the best solution to this is the publication of further elaborations and defenses contained in Hoppe’s newest book.

The book is divided into two parts, “Economics” and “Philosophy.” Because Part Two: Philosophy contains Hoppe’s most important ideas—his defense of individual rights—I will discuss this part first. The six chapters (chapters 6 through 11) in Part Two plus the “Four Critical Replies” in the Appendix present Hoppe’s argumentation ethic and its underlying epistemology—often repeatedly and redundantly, because the chapters were first published as independent papers, and little editing, except in chapter 6, has been done to integrate them or to delete redundancies.

B. Argumentation Ethics

Hoppe’s “argumentation ethics” theory, briefly stated, starts by noting that all truths, including ethics and normative statements, must be discoverable through the process of argumentation. This “a priori of communication and argumentation” is undeniable, as one would have to contradict oneself in using argument to deny this. Therefore, whatever facts or norms are postulated while engaging in argumentation cannot be contradicted by any proposed fact or norms.[4] As Hoppe writes:

In analyzing any actual norm proposal reason’s task is merely confined to analyzing whether or not it is logically consistent with the very ethics which the proponent must presuppose as valid insofar as he is able to make his proposal at all.[5]

In argumentation, the validity of certain implications cannot be disputed. For example, the universalization principle, as formulated in the Golden Rule of ethics or in the Kantian Categorical Imperative, states:

… that only those norms can be justified that can be formulated as general principles which without exception are valid for everyone. Indeed, as it is implied in argumentation that everyone who can understand an argument must in principle be able to be convinced by it simply because of its argumentative force, the universalization principle of ethics can now be understood and explained in the wider a priori of communication and argumentation.[6]

In other words, anyone who argues accepts the validity of the universalization principle implicitly.

“The universalization principle only provides one with a purely formal criterion for morality…. However, there are other positive norms implied in argumentation apart from” this principle.[7] First Hoppe points out three interrelated facts: “First, that argumentation is not only a cognitive but a practical affair. Second, that argumentation, as a form of action, implies the use of the scarce resource of one’s body. And third, that argumentation is a conflict-free way of interacting.”[8]

Therefore, anyone engaging in argumentation (or, indeed, any discourse at all, even with oneself) must accept the presupposed right of self-ownership of all listeners and even potential listeners: for otherwise the listener would not be able to consider freely and accept or reject the proposed argument, which is undeniably a goal of argumentation. “It is only as long as there is at least an implicit recognition of each individual’s property right in his or her own body that argumentation can take place.”[9] The libertarian nonaggression principle—“nobody has the right to uninvitedly aggress against the body of any other person and thus delimit or restrict anyone’s control over his own body”—is implied in the concept of argumentative justification, because justifying means justifying without having to rely on coercion.

The concomitant right to homestead private property is also presupposed by anyone engaging in argumentation: since the use of naturalresources, i.e., property rights in land, food, water, etc., is absolutely necessary for any listener to survive and be able to participate in an argument, and since homesteading unowned property is the only objective and conflict-free way to assign property rights, all arguers must also presuppose the validity of the homesteading of unowned property, the Lockean “mixing of labor” with scarce resources, for otherwise argumentation could not occur.[10] And, of course, the right to self-ownership plus the right to homestead are the bases of laissez-faire capitalism.[11]

C. Estoppel and Directions for Further Inquiry

Professor Hoppe’s discovery of such a rock-solid defense of individual rights is a profoundly important achievement. Because so many of Hoppe’s insights deserve further exploration and development, one welcomes future writing by Hoppe and by others building upon his work.[12]

For example, in my own article, “Estoppel: A New Justification for Individual Rights,”[13] I draw on Hoppe’s work—especially his application of the principle of universalizability to the activity of argumentation—in making another argumentation-based or discourse-based defense of individual rights. Hoppe’s main argument is that any person who argues must accept certain principles that must be implicitly acknowledged by any person engaged in the very activity of arguing, and that these principles imply the rights of self-ownership and homesteading, as they are incompatible with any other—“socialist”—ethic. In my estoppel theory, I argue that the existence of rights can be demonstrated by looking at the consistency of the arguments made by a rights violator at the moment when he is about to be punished for the rights violation.

Since what is important about rights is that they are (legitimately) enforceable, if an alleged rights-violator is unable to meaningfully object to his punishment or, indeed, if he implicitly consents to his punishment, then this is enough to justify the existence of the rights claimed. And it is indeed true that if A initiates violence against B, A is estopped, or prevented, from complaining (i.e., objecting or withholding consent) if B retaliates or punishes A. For A has admitted the validity of aggression, and it would be inconsistent for him to object to his own punishment, which is, after all, “only” aggression.

By the same token, however, laws that attempt to enforce “positive” rights (such as the right to food or a job) or to prohibit nonaggressive behavior (such as expression, prostitution, the use of drugs, or the offer to pay someone less than minimum wage) are not legitimate. For here the state, in enforcing such laws against nonaggressors, is itself an aggressor.[14] If the imprisoned, nonaggressive “criminal” asserts his right to be freed and his concomitant right to use force against the aggressor-state to escape, the state cannot deny this asserted right nor the legitimacy of the prisoner’s (proposed) use of force against the state, since the state, by being an aggressor, is estopped from denying the legitimacy of the use of force. Since the prisoner has a right to be freed, of course the state has no contrary “right” to imprison him. By this same logic, an aggressive criminal has a right to not be disproportionately punished. For example, someone who steals an ink pen may not be executed as punishment.[15]

It is hoped that others will also build upon or critique Hoppe’s work. Murray Rothbard stated in the Liberty symposium that “a future research program for Hoppe and other libertarian philosophers would be (a) to see how far axiomatics can be extended into other spheres of ethics, or (b) to see if and how this axiomatic could be integrated into the standard natural law approach.”[16] Also of interest would be a systematic cataloguing of just what is a priori axiomatic knowledge.[17]

Another tantalizing idea deserving further exploration is Hoppe’s discussion of free will:

[O]ne must regard one’s knowledge and actions as uncaused. One might hold this conception of “freedom” to be an illusion, and from the point of view of a “scientist” with cognitive powers substantially superior to any human intelligence, from the point of view of God, for example, such a description may well be correct—but we are not God, and even if freedom is illusory from His standpoint, for we [sic] human beings it is a necessary illusion.[18]

D. Remaining Questions—Rights of Fetuses,
Babies, and Defective Humans

Hoppe establishes the foundation for individual rights, but takes it no further. One almost salivates at the prospect of Hoppe writing more on this, answering the questions of exactly how to apply the rights of self-ownership and homesteading to the hard cases, such as fetuses, babies, children, and retarded people (who, after all, cannot argue). Hoppe deals only suggestively or obliquely with this problem: the question of what is just or unjust “does not arise vis-à-vis a stone or fish, because they are incapable of engaging in such exchanges and of producing validity-claiming propositions.”[19]

What about fetuses, or even babies? Another related statement of Hoppe’s fails to answer this question:

Obviously, we could have conflicts regarding the use of scarce resources with, let us say, an elephant or a mosquito, yet we would not consider it possible to resolve these conflicts by means of proposing property norms. The avoidance of possible conflicts, in such cases, is merely a technological, not an ethical, problem. For it to turn into an ethical problem, it is also necessary that the conflicting actors be capable, in principle, of argumentation.[20]

Is a baby “in principle” capable of argumentation? Hoppe’s view on this is unfortunately unrevealed.

  1. Hoppe, Rothbard, Rand, and Classical Natural Rights Theory

Hoppe never commits himself as to whether he believes other defenders of natural rights—such as Rothbard, whom Hoppe obviously admires greatly—are correct in their support of natural law and natural rights. He remains noncommittal, stating:

Agreeing with Rothbard on the possibility of a rational ethic and, more specifically, on the fact that only a libertarian ethic can indeed be morally justified, I want to propose here a different, non-natural-rights approach to establishing these two related claims. It has been a common quarrel with the natural rights position, even by sympathetic readers, that the concept of human nature is far “too diffuse and varied to provide a determinate set of contents of natural law.”[21]

Does Hoppe agree that natural law is hogwash? Is he a “sympathetic reader “? One gets the impression that he agrees with this criticism of natural law. If so, however, it is unclear how Rothbard, aligning himself with the natural law or natural rights tradition of philosophy, in “The Ethics of Liberty presents the full case [that] the libertarian property norms” are the rules that “can be discerned by means of reason as grounded in the very nature of man.”[22]

Hoppe even attempts to define his own theory as being, really, a new type of natural rights theory:

Nor, then, do I claim that it is impossible to interpret my approach as falling in a “rightly conceived” natural rights tradition after all…. What is claimed, though, is that the following approach is clearly out of line with what the natural rights approach has actually come to be, and that it owes nothing to this tradition as it stands…. Of course, then, since the capability of argumentation is an essential part of human nature—one could not even say anything about the latter without the former—it could also be argued that norms which cannot be defended effectively in the course of argumentation are also incompatible with human nature.[23]

Yet, Hoppe states:

[T]his defense of private property is essentially also Rothbard’s. In spite of his formal allegiance to the natural rights tradition Rothbard, in what I consider his most crucial argument in defense of a private property ethic, not only chooses essentially the same starting point—argumentation—but also gives a justification by means of a priori reasoning almost identical to the one just developed. To prove the point I can do no better than simply quote: “Now, any person participating in any sort of discussion, including one on values, is, by virtue of so participating, alive and affirming life. For if he were really opposed to life he would have no business continuing to be alive. Hence, the supposed opponent of life is really affirming it in the very process of discussion, and hence the preservation and furtherance of one’s life takes on the stature of an incontestable axiom.”[24]

F. Hoppe’s Value-Free (?) Ethics

In addition to Hoppe’s seeming unwillingness to criticize wholeheartedly the natural rights tradition, he is also curiously reluctant to admit the ethical aspects of his argumentation ethic:

Here the praxeological proof of libertarianism has the advantage of offering a completely value-free justification of private property. It remains entirely in the realm of is-statements, and nowhere tries to derive an ought from an is. The structure of the argument is this: (a) justification is propositional justification—a priori true is-statement; (b) argumentation presupposes property in one’s body and the homesteading principle—a priori true is-statement; and (c) then, no deviation from this ethic can be argumentatively justified—a priori true is-statement.[25]

Now I do not see how this is a “completely value-free justification of private property.” Private property means rights in private property; and “rights” is indeed a normative, value-laden concept. Of course, in a trivial sense, any statement such as “A should do X” is an is-statement, because one is implicitly stating that “it is the case that A should do X.” But this is still really an ought-statement, as is step (b) above, in making a statement about property rights. I do not see, however, why Hoppe is reluctant to admit this, as this is not a defect of his argument, but is in fact why it is so powerful—because it does justify the subset of ethics concerning rights.

G. Hoppe’s Conception of “Rights”

Unfortunately, Hoppe never clearly defines what he means by “rights,” which leads to some slight confusion in the presentation of aspects of his argument.[26] Primarily, he uses the word in a normative, ethical sense. He occasionally, however, seems to mean “power,” which is value-neutral and non-normative: “[I]f no one had the right to acquire and control anything except his own body … then we would all cease to exist….”[27] It is true that we would all cease to exist if we had no power or ability to acquire and control things; however, a “right” is not logically necessary for this power to be exercised. For example, in a Robinsonade, Crusoe alone on his desert island has no rights because rights are relevant only socially, as they concern relationships between individuals. Yet Crusoe, if he has the power to build a hut and gather fruit, can actually survive.

Certainly we have the ability to affect the world, otherwise we would not continue to exist—and this may explain why, according to Hoppe’s theory, we must have the right to exercise this ability. But the problem with switching to the power-sense of “rights” in a justification of normative-rights is that one may end up justifying the former and not the latter, or neither. And certainly it would be both useless and futile to try to prove that we all have the actual ability and power to control our bodies and to homestead; the very existence of the Internal Revenue Service disproves this contention immediately. Hoppe’s inconsistent use of “rights” is not fatal to his argument, but clarification of this step in his argument and a precise definition of “rights” would be welcome.[28]

H. Habermas’s and Apel’s “Discourse Ethics” and Gewirth’s
and Pilon’s “Principle of Generic Consistency”

Much of Hoppe’s argumentation ethics draws on the “discourse ethics” theories of Jürgen Habermas and Karl-Otto Apel.[29] Hoppe’s argumentation ethic also bears some similarities to Alan Gewirth’s “dialectically necessary method.”[30] Applying this method and the principle of universalizability, Gewirth derives the precept “act in accord with the generic rights of your recipients as well as of yourself,” which he calls the “Principle of Generic Consistency” (PGC).[31] Gewirth holds that his theory shows that individuals have rights to “freedom and well-being,” which in turn justify a welfare state.[32]

Hoppe criticizes Gewirth’s “dialectically necessary method” because it is based on action in general as opposed to the specific communicative subcategory of action.[33] It is interesting to note that Gewirth’s former student, Roger Pilon, believes Gewirth’s PGC is correct, important, and pathbreaking, but that Gewirth himself has applied his own theories incorrectly in an attempt to justify the welfare state.[34] The libertarian Pilon believes he can reform his own teacher’s work in order to justify libertarian principles.[35] Similarly, Hoppe believes his former teacher Habermas’s discourse-ethics theories, while correct at core, are applied incorrectly by Habermas to yield a socialistic ethic; Hoppe feels that Habermas’s theories, if correctly applied (as Hoppe himself does), yield the libertarian non-aggression norm.

Hoppe states:

Apel and Habermas are essentially silent on the all-decisive question of what ethical prescription actually follows from the recognition of the “a priori of argumentation.” However, there are remarks indicating that they both seem to believe some sort of participatory social democracy to be implied in this a priori. The following [i.e., argumentation ethics] explains why hardly anything could be farther from the truth.[36]

Although Habermas and Apel agree that argumentation implies that certain intersubjectively meaningful norms exist,[37] they would not agree with the next step taken by Hoppe. Hoppe next recognizes that argumentation, as a form of action, requires exclusive control of the scarce resources in one’s body; this implies that “as long as there is any argumentation, there is a mutual recognition of each other’s property right in his own body.”[38] As Hoppe observes, “That Habermas and Apel are unable to take this step is, I submit, due to the fact that they, too, suffer, as do many other philosophers, from a complete ignorance of economics, and a corresponding blindness towards the fact of scarcity.”[39] Presumably, just as Hoppe criticizes Gewirth’s welfare-state-justifying theory, not only because of its results but also because of its action-based method, he would also find fault in Pilon’s neo-Gewirthian theory and methods, despite Pilon’s libertarian (i.e., correct) conclusions.

III. EPISTEMOLOGY

A. The Application of Praxeology to Epistemology and Ethics

Hoppe’s epistemology is basically an extension of Ludwig von Mises’s praxeology, which Mises had previously applied only to economics.[40] Mises inquired into the logical status of typical economic propositions such as the law of marginal utility. Mises showed that both empiricism and historicism are self-contradictory doctrines and justified the claims of rationalist philosophy by demonstrating the existence of a priori synthetic propositions.[41]

In the Kantian and Misesian framework, analytic truths like “all bachelors are unmarried” are true, but circular or tautological. Synthetic truths, like “all bachelors are unfulfilled” (if that were true), say something substantial about bachelors that is not already part of the definition of bachelors. We may know a synthetic truth through experience or empirically (or a posteriori). But these truths are not necessarily true, and might have been false if experience had been different. According to empiricism, synthetic truths can be known only through experience.[42] A synthetic a priori proposition is significant because it is necessarily true yet is not a tautology, thus yielding certain unchallengeable real knowledge about the world.[43]

Mises shows that the propositions of economics are indeed knowledge that is not derived from observation and yet is constrained by objective laws. In the science of praxeology, the general theory of human action, the “axiom of action” (i.e., the proposition that humans act, that they display intentional behavior), qualifies as a priori synthetic knowledge because (a) the “axiom is not derived from observation—there are only bodily movements to be observed but no such thing as actions—but stems instead from reflective understanding”; and (b) this understanding is of a self-evident proposition, “for its truth cannot be denied, since the denial would itself have to be categorized as an action.”[44] Mises shows that all of the “categories which we know to be the very heart of economics—values, ends, means, choice, preference, cost, profit and loss—are implied in the axiom of action.”[45]

Hoppe’s achievement is to explain how praxeology also provides the foundation for epistemology and ethics (the argumentation ethichas already been discussed above). To the a priori axiom of action, Hoppe adds a second a priori axiom, the “a priori of argumentation.” This axiom:

… states that humans are capable of argumentation and hence know the meaning of truth and validity. As in the case of the action axiom, this knowledge is not derived from observation: there is only verbal behavior to be observed and prior reflective cognition is required in order to interpret such behavior as meaningful arguments. And the validity of the axiom, like that of the action axiom, is indisputable. It is impossible to deny that one can argue, as the very denial would itself be an argument.…

Recognizing, as we have just done, that knowledge claims are raised and decided upon in the course of argumentation and that this is undeniably so, one can now reconstruct the task of epistemology more precisely as that of formulating those propositions which are argumentatively indisputable in that their truth is already implied in the very fact of making one’s argument and so cannot be denied argumentatively; and to delineate the range of such a priori knowledge from the realm of propositions whose validity cannot be established in this way but require additional, contingent information for their validation, or that cannot be validated at all and so are mere metaphysical statements in the pejorative sense of the term metaphysical.[46]

B. Hoppe and Kant Versus Rand

Hoppe offers a stunning justification and interpretation of Kant’s controversial statement that “[so] far it has been assumed that our knowledge had to conform to reality,” instead it should be assumed ‘that observational reality should conform to our mind.’”[47]

According to rationalist philosophy, a priori true propositions had their foundation in the operation of principles of thinking which one could not possibly conceive of as operating otherwise; they were grounded in categories of an active mind. Now, as empiricists were only too eager to point out, the obvious critique of such a position is, that if this were indeed the case, it could not be explained why such mental categories should fit reality. Rather, one would be forced to accept the absurd idealistic assumption that reality would have to be conceived of as a creation of the mind, in order to claim that a priori knowledge could incorporate any information about the structure of reality.[48]

The empiricists’ critique seemed to be justified by statements such as that of Kant above. However, writes Hoppe:

… recognizing knowledge as being structurally constrained by its role in the framework of action categories provides the solution to such a complaint. For as soon as this is realized, all idealistic suggestions of rationalist philosophy disappear, and an epistemology claiming that a priori true propositions exist becomes a realistic epistemology instead. Understood as constrained by action categories, the seemingly unbridgeable gulf between the mental on the one hand and the real, outside physical world on the other is bridged. So constrained, a priori knowledge must be as much a mental thing as a reflection of the structure of reality, since it is only through actions that the mind comes into contact with reality, so to speak. Acting is a cognitively guided adjustment of a physical body in physical reality. And thus, there can be no doubt that a priori knowledge, conceived of as an insight into the structural constraints imposed on knowledge qua knowledge of actors, must indeed correspond to the nature of things. The realistic character of such knowledge would manifest itself not only in the fact that one could not think it to be otherwise, but in the fact that one could not undo its truth.[49]

In Hoppe’s pamphlet Praxeology and Economic Science,[50] which contains a discussion similar to the one in chapter 6 of his book, he makes it clear that he does not think that Kant himself meant that reality is created by the mind.[51] Indeed, Kant had hinted at the solution presented in Hoppe’s interpretation above. Hoppe writes, “He thought mathematics, for instance, had to be grounded in our knowledge of the meaning of repetition, of repetitive operations. And he also realized, if only somewhat vaguely, that the principle of causality is implied in our understanding of what it is and means to act.”[52]

As for the Objectivist or Randian denunciation of Kant for this statement that observational reality should conform to the mind, Hoppe states:

Among some followers of Austrianism, the Kant interpretation of Ayn Rand (see, for instance, her Introduction to Objectivist Epistemology [1979]; or For the New Intellectual [1961]) enjoys great popularity. Her interpretation, replete with sweeping denunciatory pronouncements, however, is characterized by a complete absence of any interpretive documentation whatsoever. On Rand’s arrogant ignorance regarding Kant, see B. Goldberg, “Ayn Rand’s ‘For the New Intellectual,’” New Individualist Rev., vol. 1, no. 3 (1961).[53]

 

C. A Priori Truths

Hoppe then ferrets out various truths that are implied in the very fact of arguing. The laws of logic, such as junctors (“and,” “or,” “if-then,” “not”), quantors (“there is,” “all,” “some”), and the laws of identity and contradiction:

… are a priori true propositions about reality and not mere verbal stipulations regarding the transformation rules of arbitrarily chosen signs, as empiricist-formalists would have it. They are as much laws of thinking as of reality, because they are laws that have their ultimate foundation in action and could not be undone by any actor. In each and every action, an actor identifies some specific situation and categorizes it in one way rather than another in order to be able to make a choice.[54]

Hoppe goes on to show that arithmetic is an a priori and yet empirical discipline and “is rooted in our understanding of repetition—the repetition of action.”[55] He even demonstrates the irrelevance of Gödel’s Incompleteness theorem.[56] Euclidean geometry is a priori and yet incorporates empirical knowledge about space, “because it is not only the very precondition for any empirical spatial description, it is also the precondition for any active orientation in space.”[57] Einstein’s non-Euclidean theories even presuppose the validity of Euclidean geometry: “After all, the lenses of the telescopes which one uses to confirm Einstein’s theory regarding the non-Euclidean structure of physical space must themselves be constructed according to Euclidean principles.”[58]

Hoppe also demonstrates the a prioristic character of causality and teleology. Significantly, Hoppe shows that “everything which is not an action must necessarily be categorized causally”; and, “in contrast, everything that is an action must be categorized teleogically.”[59] Also, because the causality principle is a necessary presupposition even of the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle in physics, there is a “fundamental misconception involved in interpreting the Heisenberg principle as invalidating the causality principle.”[60]

IV. ECONOMICS

A. Public Goods Theory and the Production of Security

Part One: Economics contains five interesting and insightful chapters. In chapter 1, “Fallacies of the Public Goods Theory and the Production of Security,” Hoppe shows that the distinction between “private” and “public” goods is completely illusory:

A clear-cut dichotomy between private and public goods does not exist…. All goods are more or less private or public and can—and constantly do—change with respect to their degree of privateness/publicness as people’s values and evaluations change, and as changes occur in the composition of the population. In order to recognize that they never fall, once and for all, into either one or the other category, one must only recall what makes something a good. For something to be a good it must be recognized and treated as scarce by someone. Something is not a good as such, that is to say; goods are goods only in the eyes of the beholder. Nothing is a good unless at least one person subjectively evaluates it as such. But then, when goods are never goods-as-such—when no physico-chemical analysis can identify something as an economic good—there is clearly no fixed, objective criterion for classifying goods as either private or public. They can never be private or public goods as such. Their private or public character depends on how few or how many people consider them to be goods, with the degree to which they are private or public changing as these evaluations change and ranging from one to infinity.[61]

Hoppe then applies this analysis to the production of security, commonly held to be a public good. Because the production of security is no more a “public good” than goods and services such as cheese, houses, or insurance, there is no special economic reason that prevents markets from producing security, and thus no justification to require remedial state action, such as state monopolization of police and defense.

B. The Economics and Sociology of Taxation

In chapter 2, “The Economics and Sociology of Taxation,” Hoppe argues that only three ways exist of acquiring or increasing wealth: through homesteading, producing, or contracting. Since taxation implies a reduction of income a person can expect to receive from these three activities, the opportunity cost for using one’s time and body to perform these activities is raised by taxation. Thus the marginal utility of producing wealth is decreased, and the marginal utility of consumption and leisure is increased, leading to a shift away from the production of wealth and towards consumption and leisure. Therefore taxation is a means for the destruction of property and wealth-formation.[62]

To the objection that taxation makes people actually work harder in order to earn the same income as before taxation, Hoppe replies that even if increased taxation causes:

… [an] increase in workaholism, it is still the case that the income of value-productive individuals has fallen. For even if they produce the same output as previously, they can only do so if they expend more labor now than before. And since any additional labor expenditure implies foregone leisure or consumption (leisure or consumption which they otherwise could have enjoyed along with the same output of valuable assets), their overall standard of living must be lower now.[63]

Hoppe also explains “why the assumption that taxation can possibly leave the productive output of valuable assets unaffected and exclusively cripple consumption is fatally flawed.”[64] This is because time preference—people’s preference of present goods over future goods—combines with the increased marginal utility of leisure and consumption and the decreased marginal utility of production. Because people have an increased preference for consumption (in the present), and a relatively decreased preference for production (in the future), the length of the structure of production is shortened, and thus fewer valuable future assets are produced. “Every act of taxation necessarily exerts a push away from more highly capitalized, and hence more productive production processes, and into the direction of a hand-to-mouth existence.”[65]

After showing that taxes reduce the standard of living of consumers, Hoppe discusses the sociological reasons for taxation, and ever more of it. This discussion is fascinating and insightful, but it comes down to the fact that there is taxation because the government can get away with it; the government can get away with it because a majority of the population either actively or passively support such governmental policies; and the majority support government because of the lack of (complete, principled) acceptance of a private property ethic.[66]

Government propaganda plays a role in influencing public opinion. Hoppe asks how the government could change public opinion from true ideas (i.e., the historical support in the United States for freedom and private property) to wrong ideas. He points out:

It would seem that such a change towards falsehood requires the systematic introduction of exogenous forces: A true ideology is capable of supporting itself merely by virtue of being true. A false one needs reinforcement by outside influences with a clear-cut, tangible impact on people in order to be capable of generating and supporting a climate of intellectual corruption.[67]

(Objectivists who would criticize Hoppe because many of his ideas were influenced by Kant should note Hoppe’s radical lack of epistemological and moral skepticism evident in this statement.)

Thus the government effectively buys support from the populace through a system of transfer payments, grants of privilege, and governmental provision of certain goods, e.g., education, which makes the populace increasingly dependent on the continuation of state rule.[68] By adopting democracy, the state “opens every government position to everyone and grants equal and universal rights of participation and competition in the making of state-policy.”[69] Thus people gradually lose sight of the immorality of the exploitation and expropriation in which they participate, and are lured “into accepting the view that such acts are legitimate as long as one is guaranteed a say over them….”[70]

[W]hen everyone is potentially a minister, no one is concerned to cut down an office to which he aspires one day himself, or to put sand in a machine which he means to use himself when his turn comes. Hence it is that there is in the political circles of a modern society a wide complicity in the extension of power.[71]

Hoppe concludes that everything depends on a change in public opinion. Although this may appear hopeless, “ideas have changed in the past and can change again in the future … and the idea of private property has certainly one attraction: it, and only it, is a true reflection of man’s nature as a rational being.”[72]

C. Banking, Nation States, and International Politics

Chapter 3, “Banking, Nation States, and International Politics: A Sociological Reconstruction of the Present Economic Order,” is the best and most important chapter in Part One. Here Hoppe explores how and why the state monopolizes money and banking and shows the danger of the ever-approaching international monetary order.[73] Similarly to the discussion in chapter 2, this chapter argues that the state arises despite its inefficiencies and immorality and therefore depends upon public support, either active or passive. To create legitimacy in the minds of the public, the state engages in propaganda:

Much time and effort is spent persuading the public that things are not really as they appear: Exploitation is really freedom; taxes are really voluntary … no one is ruled by anyone but we all rule ourselves; … etc.[74]

Additionally, to garner public support, the state also engages in redistribution: it takes individuals’ wealth, which individuals tend to resist, but redistributes some of it to individuals in order to corrupt them into assuming state-supportive roles. Because the state rests upon coercion, it must of course monopolize the police, defense, and courts.[75] In order to be able to regularly exploit the population, the state must also control traffic and communications, so it monopolizes these also. The state monopolizes the field of education to eliminate ideological competition. The state also adopts a democratic system that opens up potential government jobs and votes to all, giving the people a legal stake in the state in order to reduce resistance to state power.[76]

But “[t]he monopolization of money and banking is the ultimate pillar on which the modern state rests.”[77] Thus the state monopolizes the minting of gold (to shift psychologically the emphasis from gold in universal terms like ounces to terms of fiat labels like “dollars”); passes legal tender laws; monopolizes the banking system; nationalizes gold; and finally cuts the last tie to gold by declaring paper notes irredeemable in gold.

But because there is still competition among states, which limits governments’ abilities to inflate their currencies, governments have an incentive to expand their territories and to expand the territory in which each government’s currency is in place. Historically, the tendency has been towards a one-world government, with a one-world paper currency, with the United States at the helm, and with no remaining limit on inflation of the money supply except hyperinflation and a collapse of the economy. This tendency is likely to continue unless public opinion:

… the only constraint on government growth[,] undergoes a substantial change and the public begins to understand the lessons explained in this [chapter]: that economic rationality as well as justice and morality demand a worldwide gold standard and free, 100% reserve banking as well as free markets worldwide; and that world government, a world central bank and a world paper currency—contrary to the deceptive impression of representing universal values—actually means the universalization and intensification of exploitation, counterfeiting-fraud, and economic destruction.[78]

D. Marxism Reformed by Praxeology

Chapter 4, “Marxist and Austrian Class Analysis,” is an interesting chapter that reinterprets the Marxist theory of history from an Austrian economics perspective. Hoppe argues that the hard-core tenets of the Marxist theory of history are essentially correct, but are derived in Marxism from a false starting point; and that the Mises-Rothbard brand of Austrianism can give a different justification for the validity of these theses.

The five hard-core Marxist beliefs are: (1) The history of mankind is the history of class struggles; (2) the ruling class is unified by its common interest in upholding its exploitative position and maximizing its exploitatively appropriated surplus product; (3) class rule manifests itself primarily in specific arrangements regarding the relations of production (i.e., the assignment of property rights); (4) internally, the process of competition within the ruling class generates a tendency toward increasing concentration and centralization; and (5) finally, with the centralization and expansion of exploitative rule gradually approaching its ultimate limit of world domination, class rule will increasingly become incompatible with the further development and improvement of “productive forces.”[79]

Hoppe points out that Marx’s theory of exploitation is flawed because, in maintaining that there is exploitation when a capitalist retains a surplus profit after paying a laborer, his theory does not take into account nor “understand the phenomenon of time preferencesas a universal category of human action.”[80] Of course, once time preference is considered, it can be seen that “contrary to the case of slave and slave master where the latter benefits at the expense of the former, the relationship between the free laborer and the capitalist is a mutually beneficial one.”[81] It is logically absurd to regard homesteading of unowned goods, or voluntary agreements between different homesteaders, as exploitative, because nothing is taken away from anybody by these activities, and goods are actually created. “Instead, exploitation takes place whenever any deviation from the homesteading principle occurs…. Exploitation is the expropriation of homesteaders, producers and savers by late-coming non-homesteaders, non-producers, non-savers
and non-contractors….”[82] Given this theory of exploitation, Hoppe analyzes the nature of government to justify the five Marxist theses above.

E. Mises Versus Keynes

The final chapter in Part One, “Theory of Employment, Money, Interest, and the Capitalist Process: The Misesian Case Against Keynes,” contains an illuminating discussion of the Austrian theories of employment, money, and interest. After this discussion, Hoppe states that it is now “easy to recognize Keynes’s ‘new’ General Theory of Employment, Interest, and Money as fundamentally flawed and the Keynesian revolution as one of this century’s foremost intellectual scandals.”[83] Hoppe then proceeds to eviscerate Keynes’s theories against this backdrop.

V. CONCLUSION

Like A Theory of Socialism and Capitalism before it, The Economics and Ethics of Private Property contains cutting-edge economic theories and breakthroughs in epistemology and individual rights theories. Hoppe is indeed correct that, in the long run, immoral government policies depend upon the tacit support of the majority of the population. The only way to win more recognition and enforcement of our individual rights is to educate the populace of the truth and wisdom of freedom. The publication of works like Hoppe’s, with an uncompromising, hard-core (and, more importantly, correct) defense of liberty, certainly advances this cause.

 

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[1] See “The Ethical Justification of Capitalism and Why Socialism Is Morally Indefensible,” chap. 7 in Hans-Hermann Hoppe, A Theory of Socialism and Capitalism: Economics, Politics, and Ethics (Auburn, Ala.: Mises Institute, 2010 [1989]; www.hanshoppe.com/tsc). Argumentation ethics is discussed in “Dialogical Arguments for Libertarian Rights” (ch. 6) and “Defending Argumentation Ethics” (ch. 7).

[2] Hoppe’s article, “The Ultimate Justification of the Private Property Ethic,” Liberty 2, no. 1 (Sept. 1988; https://perma.cc/6TYM-BJRZ): 20–22 (included as chap. 13 of EEPP), was the subject of the symposium, “Breakthrough or Buncombe,” Liberty 2, no. 2 (Nov. 1988; https://perma.cc/A5UU-P64A): 44–53, containing discussion of Hoppe’s argumentation ethics by several libertarian theorists, many critical, and Hoppe’s reply, “Utilitarians and Randians vs Reason” (53–54). This reply is included in “Appendix: Four Critical Replies” in EEPP; see also subsequent response to critics in idem, “PFP163 | Hans Hermann Hoppe, ‘On The Ethics of Argumentation’ (PFS 2016),” The Property and Freedom Podcast, ep. 163 (June 30, 2022).

In addition to the response to the Liberty symposium, “Appendix: Four Critical Replies” also includes responses to David Osterfeld, Loren Lomasky, and David Conway in other publications. See David Osterfeld, “Comment on Hoppe,” Austrian Economics Newsletter 9, no. 3 (Spring/Summer 1988; https://perma.cc/4229-ZR7P): 9–10 (also including Hoppe’s reply, “Demonstrated Preference and Private Property: Reply to Professor Osterfeld,” pp. 10–12, and Sheldon Richman, “Comment on Osterfeld,” p. 10). David Conway’s review of Hoppe, A Theory of Socialism and Capitalism (pp. 11–14) and Hoppe’s response, “On the Indefensibility of Welfare Rights: A Comment on Conway” (pp. 14–16), appeared in Austrian Economics Newsletter 11, no. 1 (Winter/Spring 1990; https://perma.cc/X2PR-H8BW). Loren Lomasky’s criticism was “The Argument from Mere Argument,” Liberty 3, no. 1 (Sept. 1989; https://perma.cc/38XS-ZDEL): 55–57. Hoppe’s reply to Lomasky was “Intimidation by Argument—Once Again,” Liberty 3, no. 2 (Nov. 1989; https://perma.cc/4382-RKSQ): 37–39, republished as “Intimidation by Argument,” section III in “Appendix: Four Critical Replies.” Rothbard’s humorous response to Lomasky was “Hoppephobia,” originally published in Liberty 3, no. 4 (March 1990; https://perma.cc/JT7K-YTUJ): 11–12, reprinted at LewRockwell.com (Oct. 4, 2014; https://perma.cc/5HH6-2P78. See also the discussion re Lomasky and others in “Defending Argumentation Ethics” (ch. 7), at n.4 et pass., including excerpts from Hoppe’s and Rothbard’s responses to Lomasky’s critique.

For more on argumentation ethics, see Kinsella, “Argumentation Ethics and Liberty: A Concise Guide,” StephanKinsella.com (May 27, 2011); idem, “Hoppe’s Argumentation Ethics and Its Critics,” StephanKinsella.com (Aug. 11, 2015).

Regarding Yeager—in my view, he is wrong about several topics. First, he is wrong about Hoppe’s argumentation ethics; see also “Defending Argumentation Ethics” (ch. 7), n.5. Also, he is wrong about self-ownership; see “How We Come to Own Ourselves” (ch. 4), n.1. And he is wrong about knowledge and the calculation problem. On this latter issue, see “Legislation and the Discovery of Law in a Free Society” (ch. 13), at n.66, and references in Kinsella, “The Great Mises-Hayek Dehomogenization/Economic Calculation Debate,” StephanKinsella.com (Feb. 8, 2016), including Leland B. Yeager, “Mises and Hayek and Calculation and Knowledge,” Rev. Austrian Econ. 7, no. 2 (1994; https://mises.org/library/mises-and-hayek-and-calculation-and-knowledge): 93–109; Joseph Salerno, “Reply to Leland B. Yeager on Mises and Hayek on Calculation and Knowledge,” Rev. Austrian Econ. 7, no. 2 (1994; https://mises.org/library/reply-leland-b-yeager-mises-and-hayek-calculation-and-knowledge): 111–25, and Yeager, “Calculation and Knowledge: Let’s Write Finis,” Rev. Austrian Econ. 10, no. 1 (1997; https://mises.org/library/calculation-and-knowledge-lets-write-finis): 133–36.

[3] Rothbard, “Beyond Is and Ought,” p. 44.

[4] EEPP, pp. 314–15

[5] Ibid., p. 315.

[6] Ibid., p. 316. On universalizability, see Kinsella, “The problem of particularistic ethicsor, why everyone really has to admit the validity of the universalizability principle,” StephanKinsella.com (Nov. 10, 2011); “What Libertarianism Is” (ch. 2), at n.23; “How We Come to Own Ourselves” (ch. 4), n.15; “A Libertarian Theory of Punishment and Rights” (ch. 5), Part III.D.1; “Dialogical Arguments for Libertarian Rights” (ch. 6), at n.43; and “Defending Argumentation Ethics” (ch. 7), the section “Universalizability.”

[7] Ibid., pp. 316 & 317 (emphasis added).

[8] Ibid., p. 317.

[9] Ibid.

[10] Ibid., pp. 319–22. Hoppe makes it clear that, although he agrees with Locke’s theory of homesteading by mixing one’s labor with resources, he believes the Lockean proviso—Locke’s limitation that the right to homestead extends only when “enough and as good” is left for others—is false and must be rejected (contra Lomasky). Ibid., p. 410.

[11] For further elaboration of these issues, see “What Libertarianism Is” (ch. 2) and “How We Come to Own Ourselves” (ch. 4).

[12] For subsequent discussion of argumentation ethics since the publication of the original article in 1994, see Kinsella, “Argumentation Ethics and Liberty: A Concise Guide” and idem, “Hoppe’s Argumentation Ethics and Its Critics.”

[13] Kinsella, “Estoppel: A New Justification for Individual Rights,” Reason Papers No. 17 (Fall 1992): 61–74. See note 15, below.

[14] Rothbard has developed a useful classification or typology of aggressive intervention. If an aggressor’s command or order involves only the commanded individual himself—i.e., the aggressor restricts the individual’s use of his own property, when exchange with someone else is not involved—this Rothbard calls autistic intervention. If the aggressor compels an exchange between the individual and himself, or coerces a “gift” from the individual subject, this may be called a binary intervention, since a hegemonic relation is established between two people: the aggressor and the individual subject. If the aggressor compels or prohibits an exchange between a pair of subjects, this is called triangular intervention.

Examples of autistic intervention are murder or compulsory prohibition or enforcement of a salute or speech. Taxation, conscription, slavery, and compulsory jury service are examples of binary intervention. Examples of triangular intervention are price controls, minimum wage laws, and licensing. Murray N. Rothbard, Man, Economy, and State, with Power and Market, Scholars ed., 2d ed. (Auburn, Ala.: Mises Institute, 2009; https://mises.org/library/man-economy-and-state-power-and-market), chap. 12, §2. In chapter 3, “Banking, Nation States and International Politics: A Sociological Reconstruction of the Present Economic Order,” Hoppe makes similar distinctions among aggressive actions in pointing out why states with relatively more liberal internal economic policies are more successful in war against states with relatively less internal liberalization:

The need for a productive economy that a warring state must have also explains why it is that ceteris paribus those states which have adjusted their internal redistributive policies so as to decrease the importance of economic regulations relative to that of taxation tend to outstrip their competitors in the arena of international politics. Regulations through which states either compel or prohibit certain exchanges between two or more private persons as well as taxation imply a non-productive and/or non-contractual income expropriation and thus both damage homesteaders, producers or contractors i.e., those that cause wealth to come into existence. However, while by no means less destructive of productive output than taxation, regulations have the peculiar characteristic of requiring the state’s control over economic resources in order to become enforceable without simultaneously increasing the resources at its disposal. In practice, this is to say that they require the state’s command over taxes, yet they produce no monetary income for the state (instead, they satisfy pure power lust, as when A, for no material gain of his own, prohibits B and C from engaging in mutually beneficial trade). On the other hand, taxation and a redistribution of tax revenue according to the principle “from Peter to Paul,” increases the economic means at the government’s disposal at least by its own “handling charge” for the act of redistribution. Since a policy of taxation, and taxation without regulation, yields a higher monetary return to the state (and with this more resources expendable on the war effort!) than a policy of regulation, and regulation with taxation, states must move in the direction of a comparatively deregulated economy and a comparatively pure tax-state in order to avoid international defeat…. A highly characteristic example of this connection between a policy of internal deregulation and increased external aggressiveness is provided by the Reagan administration.

EEPP, p. 102–103 & n.22.

[15] Kinsella, “Estoppel: A New Justification for Individual Rights.” An expanded discussion of the estoppel theory will be presented in my work-in-progress, Estoppel: A Theory of Rights. (Author’s note: This previous comment was included in the original 1994 article. Subsequently, I elaborated on this theory, albeit under different titles than previously envisioned. See “A Libertarian Theory of Punishment and Rights” (ch. 5) and “Dialogical Arguments for Libertarian Rights” (ch. 6).)

[16] Murray N. Rothbard, “Beyond Is and Ought,” Liberty 2, no. 2 (Nov. 1988; https://perma.cc/8LZR-DN6Y; also https://mises.org/library/beyond-and-ought): 44–45.

[17] Although Hoppe demonstrates the a priori character of several concepts, he neither systematically nor exhaustively catalogues them. See Part IV, below, for a discussion of Hoppe’s a priori concepts.

[18] EEPP, p. 301. For an interesting discussion of neuropsychologist Roger W. Sperry’s writing on the subject of free will, determinism, and causality, see Charles Ripley, “Sperry’s Concept of Consciousness,” Inquiry 27 (1990): 399–423; see also Leonard Peikoff, Objectivism: The Philosophy of Ayn Rand (1991), pp. 69–72 (discussing Ayn Rand’s theory of volition and its relation to causality); and David Kelley, “The Nature of Free Will,” The Foundations of Knowledge, Lecture 6 (Portland Institute Conference, 1986; YouTube; https://youtu.be/m8qeaxNl7jE).

[19] EEPP, p. 341.

[20] Ibid., pp. 333–34.

[21] Ibid., p. 313 (Alan Gewirth, “Law, Action, and Morality,” in Georgetown Symposium on Ethics: Essays in Honor of Henry B. Veatch, R. Porreco, ed. (New York: University Press of America, 1984), p. 73)). See also the related discussion in “Dialogical Arguments for Libertarian Rights” (ch. 6), the section “Argumentation Ethics and Natural Rights.”

[22] Ibid.

[23] Ibid., pp. 314 n.15, 315 n.17.

[24] Ibid., pp. 321–22, quoting Murray N. Rothbard, “A Crusoe Social Philosophy,” in The Ethics of Liberty (New York: New York University Press, 1998), pp. 32–33, also published as idem, “A Crusoe Social Philosophy,” Mises Daily (December 7, 2021; https://mises.org/library/crusoe-social-philosophy). Ayn Rand’s thought related to this subject is worth noting:

[A]s Rand maintains, all “oughts” are hypothetical, based on valuing one’s life….

The point is not that one has to be alive in order to act to achieve anything. The point is that being pro-life is what makes end states qualify as values. Only choosing to hold one’s life as a value gives one the stake in one’s actions that is required for the whole issue of evaluation to arise….

Contrary to biological determinism, one does not have to pursue any goals or proclaim anything to be of value. But contrary to subjectivism, if one does, the action or proclamation logically depends on implicitly accepting one’s life as one’s ultimate value….

The issue of justifying choices arises only in the context of having already chosen to live. The choice to live is not extra-moral, but pre-moral; it is a precondition of all moral evaluation.

Harry Binswanger, “Life-Based Teleology and the Foundations of Ethics,” The Monist 75, no. 1 (Jan. 1992): 84–103, at 99–100. As Ayn Rand states:

Life or death is man’s only fundamental alternative. To live is his basic act of choice. If he chooses to live, a rational ethics will tell him what principles of action are required to implement his choice. If he does not choose to live, nature will take its course.

Ibid., at 100 (quoting Ayn Rand, “Causality Versus Duty,” in Philosophy: Who Needs It (Signet 1984), pp. 95, 99. For further discussion of the structure of this Rothbard’s argument for rights here, see David Osterfeld, “Natural Rights Debate: A Comment on a Reply,” J. Libertarian Stud. 7, no. 1 (Spring 1983; https://mises.org/library/natural-rights-debate-comment-reply-0): 101–13, pp. 106–07.

[25] EEPP, p. 345.

[26] This is in marked contrast to Hoppe’s normal habit of clearly defining key terms. For example, Hoppe has brilliantly demonstrated that socialism “must be conceptualized as an institutionalized interference with or aggression against private property and private property claims.” Hoppe, A Theory of Socialism and Capitalism, p. 10.

[27] EEPP, p. 320.

[28] Lomasky makes a similar critique in “The Argument from Mere Argument.”

[29] EEPP, p. 314 n.16. Jürgen Habermas’s works, often in German, are cited frequently throughout the book. Habermas’s work on “communicative action” is crucial in Hoppe’s own argumentation ethics. See also discussion in “Dialogical Arguments for Libertarian Rights” (ch. 6), n.25 et pass. Habermas’s writings published in English, or English-language discussions of Habermas’s works, include: Seyla Benhabib & Fred Dallmayr, eds., The Communicative Ethics Controversy (Cambridge, Mass.: MIT Press, 1990); Douglas B. Rasmussen, “Political Legitimacy and Discourse Ethics,” International Philosophical Quarterly 32 (1992; https://perma.cc/MK59-QEVV); Jeremy Shearmur, “Habermas: A Critical Approach,” Critical Rev. 2 (1988): 39–50; Kenneth Baynes, The Normative Grounds of Social Criticism: Kant, Rawls, and Habermas (Albany: State University of New York Press, 1992), pp. 77–122; Jane Braaten, Habermas’s Critical Theory of Society (1991); Jürgen Habermas, Moral Consciousness and Communicative Action, Christian Lenhardt & Shierry Weber Nicholsen,trans.(Cambridge, Mass.: MIT Press, 1990 [1983]) (containing English translation of work originally published in German as “Moralbewusstsein und communikatives Handeln”);idem, Between Facts and Norms: Contributions to a Discourse Theory of Law and Democracy, William Rehg, trans. (Cambridge, Mass.: MIT Press, 1996; https://perma.cc/27K9-YWW2); idem, Communication and the Evolution of Society, Thomas McCarthy, trans. (Boston: Beacon Press, 1979); idem, Knowledge and Human Interests, Jeremy Shapiro, trans. (Boston: Beacon Press, 1972); idem, Legitimation Crisis, Thomas McCarthy, trans. (Boston: Beacon Press, 1975); idem, The Philosophical Discourse of Modernity : Twelve Lectures, Fredrick Lawrence, trans. (Cambridge, Mass.: MIT Press, 1987); idem, Theory and Practice, John Viertel,trans. (Boston: Beacon Press, 1973); idem, The Theory of Communicative Action, Thomas McCarthy, trans. (Boston: Beacon Press, 1984 & 1987) (two volumes); Thomas McCarthy, The Critical Theory of Jürgen Habermas (Cambridge, Mass.: MIT Press, 1981); idem, Ideals and Illusions: On Reconstruction and Deconstruction in Contemporary Critical Theory (Cambridge, Mass.: MIT Press, 1993); John B. Thompson & David Held, eds., Habermas: Critical Debates (London: Macmillan Press, 1982); Michael Pusey, Jürgen Habermas (London and New York: Routledge, 1987); Richard J. Bernstein, ed., Habermas and Modernity (Cambridge, Mass.: MIT Press, 1985); Jürgen Habermas, Jürgen Habermas on Society and Politics: A Reader, Steven Seidman, ed. (Boston: Beacon Press, 1989); David M. Rasmussen, ed., Reading Habermas (Wiley-Blackwell, 1991); Stephen K. White, The Recent Work of Jürgen Habermas (Cambridge University Press, 1988); Gary C. Leedes, “The Discourse Ethics Alternative to Rust v. Sullivan,” U. Rich. L. Rev. 26 (1991; https://scholarship.richmond.edu/lawreview/vol26/iss1/4/): 87–143, at 108-11; Lawrence B. Solum, “Freedom of Communicative Action: A Theory of the First Amendment Freedom of Speech,” Northwestern U. L. Rev. 83 (1989; https://scholarship.law.georgetown.edu/facpub/1954/): 54–135, at 86–106.

See also Karl-Otto Apel, “Is the Ethics of the Ideal Communication Community a Utopia? On the Relationship between Ethics, Utopia, and the Critique of Utopia,”in Benhabib & Dallmayr, eds., The Communicative Ethics Controversy; idem, “The A Prioriof the Communication Community and the Foundations of Ethics,” in Towards a Transformation of Philosophy (London and New York: Routledge, 1980); idem, “The Problem of Philosophical Foundations Grounding in Light of a Transcendental Pragmatics of Language,” in Kenneth Baynes, James Bohman & Thomas McCarthy, eds., After Philosophy: End or Transformation? (Cambridges, Mass.: MIT Press, 1986); Kim Davies, “Review of K-O Apel, Towards a Transformation of Philosophy (1980),” Radical Philosophy 30 (Spring 1982; https://www.stephankinsella.com/wp-content/uploads/texts/davies_apel-review.pdf); Michel Rosenfeld, “Book Review of Habermas, Between Facts and Norms: Contributions to a Discourse Theory of Law and Democracy,” Harv. L. Rev. 108 (1995): 1163–89.

[30] EEPP, p. 315 n.18. Gewirth’s theory is presented in his book Reason and Morality (Chicago: University of Chicago Press, 1978). For a concise statement of Gewirth’s theories, see his article “The Basis and Content of Human Rights,” Georgia L. Rev. 13 (1979): 1143–70; also idem, Moral Rationality (The Lindley Lecture, Univ. of Kansas, 1972; https://core.ac.uk/download/pdf/213402925.pdf); idem, “Law, Action, and Morality,” p. 73.

See also the discussion of Gewirth and his libertarian student Roger Pilon in “Dialogical Arguments for Libertarian Rights” (ch. 6).

[31] Gewirth, “The Basis and Content of Human Rights,” p. 1155.

[32] Ibid., at 1149, 1167-69.

[33] EEPP, p. 315 n.18.

[34] Roger A. Pilon, “Ordering Rights Consistently: Or What We Do and Do Not Have Rights To,” Georgia L. Rev. 13 (1979; https://perma.cc/FYX4-CFNH): 1171–96, pp. 1178, 1187; see also idem, A Theory of Rights: Toward Limited Government (Ph.D. dissertation, University of Chicago, 1979; https://perma.cc/DGS3-W4UA).

[35] Ibid at 1186–87.

[36] EEPP, p. 335 n.2.

[37] Ibid., p. 334.

[38] Ibid., p. 335.

[39] Ibid.

[40] Ibid., p. 278 et seq.

[41] Ibid., p. 271 et seq.

[42] Roger Scruton, Kant (Oxford University Press, 1982), pp. 18–19.

[43] David Gordon, The Philosophical Origins of Austrian Economics (Auburn, Ala.: Mises Institute, 1993; https://perma.cc/AQ6N-VS4H), pp. 30–31.

[44] EEPP, pp. 275–76.

[45] Ibid., p. 277.

[46] Ibid., p. 280.

[47] Ibid., p. 282, quoting Immanuel Kant, Kritik der Reinen Vernunft [Critique of Pure Reason], in vol. 3 Werke, Wilhelm Weischedel, ed. (Frankfurt/M.: Suhrkamp,  1968), p. 45.

[48] EEPP, p. 282.

[49] Ibid., pp. 282–83.

[50] Hans-Hermann Hoppe, Praxeology and Economic Science (1988), later included in idem, Economic Science and the Austrian Method (Auburn, Ala.: Mises Institute, 1995; www.hanshoppe.com/esam).

[51] Ibid., pp. 17–18.

[52] Ibid., p. 18.

[53] Ibid., at 45 n.14. Goldberg’s article, however, is poorly reasoned and largely unconvincing. See David Kelley, The Evidence of the Senses: A Realist Theory of Perception (1986), p. 27–31 (discussing the primacy of existence); Leonard Peikoff, Objectivism: The Philosopy of Ayn Rand (New York: Dutton, 1991), pp. 148–52 (discussing Ayn Rand and philosophy of objectivity). The notorious phrase of Kant’s can be found in English in Immanuel Kant, Critique of Pure Reason (Norman K. Smith trans. 1953 [1929]), pp. 21–22. As David Kelley, executive director of the Institute for Objectivist Studies, paraphrases Kant:

Hitherto it has been supposed,” Kant says in his major work, “that all our knowledge must conform to the objects,” but, he argues, … under that supposition, every effort to establish the validity of consciousness has failed. So, “the experiment therefore ought to be made, whether we should not succeed better with the problems of metaphysics by assuming that the objects must conform to our mode of cognition.

Kelley perceptively criticizes Kant here with an analogy, that of Kant’s thought applied to the driving of a car:

Hitherto it has been supposed that our steering must conform to the road. But on this supposition it has proved impossible to establish the validity of our steering. The experiment therefore ought to be made, whether we should not have more success with the problem of driving by assuming that the road must conform to our steering.

David Kelley, “The Primacy of Existence,” The Foundations of Knowledge, Lecture 1 (The Jefferson School Conference, San Diego; YouTube, 1985; https://youtu.be/AVBgfamJxFk).

Author’s note (2023): As Hoppe has observed, Kant’s meaning is ambiguous or murky enough because of his wording to cause some, such as Kelley, and other, primarily American, philosophers, to interpret Kant in this idealistic way, while others, primarily on the continent, have interpreted him in a more realistic way. See EEPP, p. 282 and 282 n.17, citing, as examples of the latter, Friedrich Kambartel, Erfahrung and Struktur (Frankfurt/M.: Suhrkamp, 1968), chap. 3 as well as Hoppe’s own Handeln und Erkennen: Zur Kritik des Empirismus am Beispiel der Philosophie David Humes (Bern: Lang, 1976; www.hanshoppe.com/german). Some other books suggested to me in this regard, which I have not yet read (and I don’t know German), include: Ralph C.S. Walker, Kant (London: Routledge and Kegan Paul, 1978) (suggested by Barry Smith); Paul Abela, Kant’s Empirical Realism (Oxford: Clarendon Press, 2002) and J.N. Findlay, Kant and the Transcendental Object: A Hermeneutic Study (Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1981) (suggested by David Gordon); Paul Lorenzen, Methodisches Denken (Frankfurt/M.: Suhrkamp, 1968) and idem, Normative Logic and Ethics (Mannheim: Bibliographisches Institut, 1969) (suggested by Hoppe); Magdalena Aebi, Kants Begründung der “Deutschen Philosophie”: Kants Transzendentale Logik, Kritik Ihrer Begründung (Basel: Verlag für Recht und Gesellschaft, 1947) (suggested by Kevin Mulligan).

But as Hoppe points out, “Whether or not such an interpretation of Kant’s epistemology is indeed correct is a very different matter. Clarifying this problem is of no concern here, however.” EEPP, p. 282 n.17. In any case, Kantians such as Mises, Kantian-Misesians such as Hoppe, and Aristotelean-Misesians such as Rothbard are in fact epistemological realists and not idealists as some philosophers construe Kant to be. To the contrary, the Misesian praxeological perspective helps to ground a realist epistemology. As Hoppe notes,

Recognizing knowledge as being structurally constrained by its role in the framework of action categories provides the solution to such a complaint, for as soon as this is realized, all idealistic suggestions of rationalist philosophy disappear, and an epistemology claiming that a priori true propositions exist becomes a realistic epistemology instead. Understood as constrained by action categories, the seemingly unbridgeable gulf between the mental on the one hand and the real, outside physical world on the other is bridged.

Ibid., pp. 282–83. For more on Hoppe’s realistic, Misesian-based epistemology, see his Economic Science and the Austrian Method, pp. 68–70. On Rothbard’s, see his “The Mantle of Science,” “In Defense of ‘Extreme Apriorism,’” and other chapters in Section One: Method, of Economic Controversies (Auburn, Ala.: Mises Institute, 2011; https://mises.org/library/economic-controversies). On Mises’s realism, see Ludwig von Mises, “Epistemological Studies,” in Memoirs, Arlene Oost-Zinner, trans. (Auburn, Ala.: Mises Institute, 2009; https://mises.org/library/book/memoirs) (formerly Notes and Recollections); Mises’s dismissive remarks on Popper in The Ultimate Foundation of Economic Science: An Essay on Method (Princeton, N.J.: D. Van Nostrand Company, Inc., 1962; https://mises.org/library/ultimate-foundation-economic-science), chap. 4, §8 and chap. 7, §4; idem, Theory and History: An Interpretation of Social and Economic Evolution (Auburn, Ala.: Mises Institute, 2007 [1957]; https://mises.org/library/theory-and-history-interpretation-social-and-economic-evolution), chap. 1, §3. See also Edward W. Younkins, “Menger, Mises, Rand, and Beyond,” J. Ayn Rand Stud. 6, no. 2 (Spring 2005; https://perma.cc/SM4J-TYBV): 337–74, p. 342 et pass. (also in Edward W. Younkins, ed., Philosophers of Capitalism: Menger, Mises, Rand, and Beyond (Lexington Books, 2005)), and Heidi C. Morris, “Reason and Reality: The Logical Compatibility of Austrian Economics and Objectivism,” Rebirth of Reason (May 10, 2005; https://perma.cc/PSR5-MNFE).

[54] EEPP, p. 284.

[55] Ibid., p. 286.

[56] Ibid., p. 286 n.20.

[57] Ibid., pp. 288.

[58] Ibid, p. 288 n.23; see Petr Beckmann, Einstein Plus Two (Golem Press, 1987), p. 27 et pass. (proposing theory implying that Einstein’s work does not prove physical space is non-Euclidean). In the journal founded by Dr. Beckmann, who passed away in 1993, a recent article purports to have found evidence disproving part of Einstein’s theory, thereby confirming Beckmann and Hoppe. Howard C. Hayden, “Stellar Aberration,” Galilean Electrodynamics [https://perma.cc/JUY8-W7WS] vol. 4, no. 5 (Sept./Oct. 1993; https://perma.cc/GQY6-KUVK): 89–92. In this article, Hayden, a professor of physics at the University of Connecticut, claims that evidence shows that the phenomenon of stellar aberration is not due to the relative velocity of a star with respect to Earth, as is claimed by Einstein’s theory of relativity. Ibid., at 91–92. The evidence thus casts doubt on the validity of Einsteinian relativity. Galilean Electrodynamics is now edited by Howard C. Hayden. (Author’s note (2023): this original comment was written in 1994.)

[59] Ibid., pp. 291–92.

[60] Ibid., p. 290 n.25.

[61] Ibid., pp. 8–9.

[62] Ibid., p. 35.

[63] Ibid., p. 39.

[64] Ibid.

[65] Ibid., p. 42.

[66] In this book I often use “government” more or less synonymously with “the state,” although it is probably preferable to use the term state, when possible, as it is conceptually distinct from “government,” as one can imagine “governing institutions” of law and order in a private-law society. In fact many statists and mini-statists (minarchists) often engage in equivocation on this point; they presuppose that there cannot be law and order, or “government,” without the state, but if the anarchist claims to favor law and order, then the statist equates government with state and accuses the anarchist of being inconsistent. This is really simply disingenuous question-begging hidden behind an equivocation.

[67] Ibid., p. 65.

[68] Hoppe discusses some of these themes also in Democracy: The God That Failed (Transaction, 2001; www.hanshoppe.com/democracy).

[69] Ibid., p. 67. This calls to mind the words of Lysander Spooner, writing in 1870. Note especially Spooner’s point 2:

The ostensible supporters of the Constitution … are made up of three classes, viz.: 1. Knaves, a numerous and active class, who see in the government an instrument which they can use for their own aggrandizement or wealth. 2. Dupes—a large class, no doubt—each of whom, because he is allowed one voice out of millions in deciding what he may do with his own person and his own property, and because he is permitted to have the same voice in robbing, enslaving, and murdering others, that others have in robbing, enslaving, and murdering himself, is stupid enough to imagine that he is a “free man,” a “sovereign”; that this is a “free government”; “a government of equal rights,” “the best government on earth,” and such like absurdities. 3. A class who have some appreciation of the evils of government, but either do not see how to get rid of them, or do not choose to so far sacrifice their private interests as to give themselves seriously and earnestly to the work of making a change.

Lysander Spooner, “No Treason No. 4: The Constitution of No Authority,” in The Lysander Spooner Reader (San Francisco, Calif.: Fox and Wilkes, 1992; http://www.lysanderspooner.org/works). Spooner (1808–1887), an anarchist, was a Massachusetts lawyer noted for his vigorous opposition to the encroachment of the state upon the liberty of the individual, such as the institution of slavery. In No Treason, Spooner demolishes the “consent” theory of the validity of the Constitution. Unfortunately, Spooner was a total crank and wrong on the important issue of intellectual property. See “Law and Intellectual Property in a Stateless Society” (ch. 14), n.4 et pass.

[70] EEPP, p. 68.

[71] Ibid., p. 69.

[72] Ibid., p. 75.

[73] See note 14, above (quoting Hoppe’s explanation of why more liberal or free-market states are more successful in war or imperialism than more socialist states).

[74] EEPP, pp. 86–87. Here one is reminded of government leaders referring to taxes as “contributions.”

[75] Ibid., p. 88.

[76] Ibid., pp. 88–89.

[77] Ibid.

[78] Ibid., p. 116.

[79] Ibid., pp. 117–19.

[80] Ibid., p. 122.

[81] Ibid.

[82] Ibid., pp. 125–26.

[83] Ibid., p. 155.

 

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Kinsella on Liberty Podcast, Episode 214. www.stephankinsella.com/kinsella-on-liberty-podcast/

I was a guest on the fun and zany libertarian podcast “Johnny Rocket Launch Pad,” Episode 97. They fired questions at me one after another, and I did my best to field them. The sound effects were added later.

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What are some things libertarians commonly get wrong? What bad habits do we fall into, with regard to philosophy and law? This week we are joined by the intellectual giant Stephan Kinsella, who brings his experience in law, and philosophy to the table. This episode exposes new ways of looking at old philosophies, and we also go into depth about intellectual property. This is an episode you cannot miss!

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